Police crackdown on unsafe helmets

[eldog]

If you indicate your exit, everyone knows what you are doing, and it just make traffic flow better. Less waiting.

Of course, the subtleties of such traffic flow issues escape many, who cant see past the needs of the person in their mirror.

Many = 90 % of Aklders, who have to beat the person in front to gain in the race on the road. And those in bright shiny new cars which have the indicators painted on.

[eldog]

No matter what the item there is always a price/performance ratio.

A shit item can still be sold at a high price if the customer is prepaid to pay.

But generally a decent item is a higher price, pays to look around and compare.
I saved for a couple of months to buy my helmet, it was a higher price item, but I feel it was worth it.

When I brought my helmet I researched what is available to get an idea of things that mattered.

Safety - I read as much as I could
Performance - did it incorporate the things I saw as a necessity - built in sun visor
Useability - If its nice and easy to use - I will use it, if its hard I will give up
Comfort/fit - does it fit snugly/tight all over my head? I tried lots of helmets most don't fit my noggin
Air flow/Pinlock - I am a heavy breather so tend to fog up everything, air flow through helmet was important
I have fogged up the Pinlock on several occasions completely and had to stop, even with the visor cracked open
Noise - a decent Neck roll eliminates a fair amount of noise
Visibilty - I wanted a colour that was visible
Removeable liner - helps cleaning.
Full Face - A mate of mine, face planted once, lucky it was only grass....
Price - I got a good deal.

Sure I looked at helmets that looked cool, where light, but those didn't meet my criteria.

Yes I have ridden without a helmet and it feels great, but I know shit can happen, so I wear a decent helmet.
Its not the one I wanted but the seller pointed me to another different model which I am very happy with.

Laws/standards are supposed to help the average user be 'safe'

In the last month or so I have been stopped 4 times (alcohol check points) I didn't feel targeted

Its upto the individual - your attitude and displayed behaviour - helps a lot

[nzspokes]

So while my debate was not about standards you do confirm that not only with higher priced helmets do you get better build quality but they will likely be safer too
if they have a different rating to the Sharp testing system. From the attachment posted all the other standards are not rated perfect either so if in doubt the thinking would be to buy the most expensive
helmet you can afford for the sort of riding you do if its a good fit. Looking at the model/brand helmet that racers wear would be a good indication of a top helmet if you dont want
to buy on whatever the testing standard of a helmet is. I douubt racers would wear $125 dollar new helmets despite the claim they are just as safe as $1000 ones.

The "Racer" point is worthless. Yes they are going faster but the have a lot less to hit. Dont tend to be cars and trees on the race track.

Pretty obvious a more expensive helmet is better quality.

[rastuscat]

The "Racer" point is worthless. Yes they are going faster but the have a lot less to hit. Dont tend to be cars and trees on the race track.

https://youtu.be/VruWHHEnZGw?list=PL...2H2tlgcwLSAuwN

[Gremlin]

Of course, the subtleties of such traffic flow issues escape many, who cant see past the needs of the person in their mirror.

Stop assuming they're even considering the person in the mirror (or looking at the mirrors)

[rastuscat]

Stop assuming they're even considering the person in the mirror (or looking at the mirrors)

I was referring to the bathroom mirror. And to folk who only have concern for the Visage they see in it.

I'm not a big fan of the NZTA Drive Social campaign but I do like to consider the effect my riding has on others.

[Kickaha]

While racers may have less to hit they do have other riders in closer proximity than traffic on the road travelling at the same speed or higher. So while they have less to hit the chances of them having a hit are far greater due to them having far less stopping distance (if they are out to win).

You obviously know nothing about racing

[Scuba_Steve]

There are a lot dumber rules, don't worry.

And clearly you have no idea what you are supposed to be doing.

The person sitting opposite you on a roundabout is wondering if they have to give way to you. Once you are on the roundabout, you have left the straight road you are on, and have entered a separate control area. If you indicate your exit, everyone knows what you are doing, and it just make traffic flow better. Less waiting.

Of course, the subtleties of such traffic flow issues escape many, who cant see past the needs of the person in their mirror.

but you can't see the person opposite you as the NZTA in their astounding retardness has decided people shouldn't be able to see shit at roundabouts... cause somehow that's "safe"
And all this rule has done is made roundabouts so, so much worse, it's had the complete opposite effect of what the claimed intent was, it's a fucking mess... luckily most people have just stuck with the old system & for the most part shit still works

[rastuscat]

Interesting the comparison between road and track. I personally see the track as safer than roads, for the following reasons.

Everyone is going mostly in the same direction. No intersections, no crossing and turning crashes, no conflicting contract flows.

Mostly, there isn't a massive speed differential, as found on roads. Speed itself isn't the thing, it's speed differentials on the road that cause the biggest problems.

If you bin on a track it's a safer place to slide to a stop. Sand traps, run off areas, if only roads had those.

I repeat. $10 head, $10 helmet.

Just sayin.

[pritch]

$10 head, $10 helmet.

The last time I said that to somebody he replied that it was OK 'cause the helmet wasn't for him. It was for his wife.

[tigertim20]

You obviously know nothing

fixed that for ya mate.

Interesting the comparison between road and track. I personally see the track as safer than roads, for the following reasons.

Everyone is going mostly in the same direction. No intersections, no crossing and turning crashes, no conflicting contract flows.

Mostly, there isn't a massive speed differential, as found on roads. Speed itself isn't the thing, it's speed differentials on the road that cause the biggest problems.

If you bin on a track it's a safer place to slide to a stop. Sand traps, run off areas, if only roads had those.

I repeat. $10 head, $10 helmet.

Just sayin.

track analogy is dead on. went to teretonga for midweek trackday on wednesday this week.
The friend I went down with lost the front exiting the sweeper - doing around 130. had a wee slide across the track, over the grass and stopped in the gravel pit. rider good as gold, leathers scuffed on the bum, head did not contact anything due, in part to it being a flat smooth surface to glide across.

Had he been on a road he would have likely hit a kerb then a fence / lamp post / letterbox / whatever and would have required an ambulance, if not a hearse.

[nzspokes]

fixed that for ya mate.



track analogy is dead on. went to teretonga for midweek trackday on wednesday this week.
The friend I went down with lost the front exiting the sweeper - doing around 130. had a wee slide across the track, over the grass and stopped in the gravel pit. rider good as gold, leathers scuffed on the bum, head did not contact anything due, in part to it being a flat smooth surface to glide across.

Had he been on a road he would have likely hit a kerb then a fence / lamp post / letterbox / whatever and would have required an ambulance, if not a hearse.

I also agree. No friggin big steel things coming the other way.

[F5 Dave]

You are the one that knows nothing about racing and I suggest you look at some race crash videos to educate yourself.

That's like telling the pornstar that you know a bunch about sex cause you've seen it on TV.

But because you're hard of thinking I'll explain that Kick has been racing for a very long time. So he might have a clue.

[Kickaha]

So he might have a clue.

What a cunt, you take that back

[jellywrestler]

i wonder done here in the capital how many cops will get tickets then for riding with their flip top helmets open....