Police crackdown on unsafe helmets

**Tazz** · 28th November 2015, 14:19

Originally Posted by rastuscat

There are a lot dumber rules, don't worry.

And clearly you have no idea what you are supposed to be doing.

The person sitting opposite you on a roundabout is wondering if they have to give way to you. Once you are on the roundabout, you have left the straight road you are on, and have entered a separate control area. If you indicate your exit, everyone knows what you are doing, and it just make traffic flow better. Less waiting.

Of course, the subtleties of such traffic flow issues escape many, who cant see past the needs of the person in their mirror.

See, in theory that sounds fantastic and makes complete sense. In reality unless you have x-ray vision and can see through the car to the indicator on the opposite side, it is redundant. For obvious reasons indicators are not designed to be seen from the opposite side of a vehicle

The right indicator blinking or the lack of a right indicator blinking and your speed are what really lets other drivers know what is happening, not the redundant flick of the left indicator when you're already clearly on the way off the round about anyway. You can't start it earlier otherwise you are going to get people from the first intersection pulling out in front of you, and then in the case of cars when your wheels are to the right the left indicator won't stay on because the auto off mechanism is in the wrong position almost every time, until your wheels are straightening and it's clear you are leaving the roundabout anyway.

It is a useless rule for all but the absolutely massive of roundabouts.

**rambaldi** · 28th November 2015, 14:26

Originally Posted by Tazz

See, in theory that sounds fantastic and makes complete sense. In reality unless you have x-ray vision and can see through the car to the indicator on the opposite side, it is redundant. For obvious reasons indicators are not designed to be seen from the opposite side of a vehicle

The right indicator blinking or the lack of a right indicator blinking and your speed are what really lets other drivers know what is happening, not the redundant flick of the left indicator when you're already clearly on the way off the round about anyway. You can't start it earlier otherwise you are going to get people from the first intersection pulling out in front of you, and then in the case of cars when your wheels are to the right the left indicator won't stay on because the auto off mechanism is in the wrong position almost every time, until your wheels are straightening and it's clear you are leaving the roundabout anyway.

It is a useless rule for all but the absolutely massive of roundabouts.

It seems to work for a lot of circles around where I live, they aren't micro roundabouts obviously but it works. You flick them on just past the last exit and then others can get on as you are getting off. All these are 50 km/h ones so obviously you are moving pretty slowly through them rather than hooning.

**Tazz** · 28th November 2015, 14:30

Originally Posted by rambaldi

It seems to work for a lot of circles around where I live, they aren't micro roundabouts obviously but it works. You flick them on just past the last exit and then others can get on as you are getting off. All these are 50 km/h ones so obviously you are moving pretty slowly through them rather than hooning.

Flick it on as you are straightening up/not turning because you're past the apex of the roundabout and on the way off you mean?

Glad you find it handy though. I can't think of one roundabout I've used (I travelled a fair bit but haven't spent much time in Auckland so probably haven't used the ones you do) in NZ where you couldn't tell what the driver was doing before seeing their left hand indicator going to show they were exiting or not.

**rambaldi** · 28th November 2015, 14:31

Originally Posted by Tazz

Flick it on as you are straightening up/not turning because you're past the apex of the roundabout and on the way off you mean?

Glad you find it handy though. I can't think of one roundabout I've used (I travelled a fair bit but haven't spent much time in Auckland so probably haven't used the ones you do) in NZ where you couldn't tell what the driver was doing before seeing their left hand indicator going to show they were exiting or not.

I would like to think that were the case but with some of the muppets I have seen we can do with all the help we can get

**Tazz** · 28th November 2015, 15:25

Originally Posted by rambaldi

I would like to think that were the case but with some of the muppets I have seen we can do with all the help we can get

haha I'd definitely agree with that =)

**Ender EnZed** · 28th November 2015, 16:11

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

i wonder done here in the capital how many cops will get tickets then for riding with their flip top helmets open....

Nolan starting making one a couple of years ago that was still certified with the face up. Haven't heard anything about other manufacturers doing the same though.

**Tazz** · 28th November 2015, 16:21

Originally Posted by Ender EnZed

Nolan starting making one a couple of years ago that was still certified with the face up. Haven't heard anything about other manufacturers doing the same though.

Shark and LS2 have ones you can do that with. I think Shark did it first with their Evoline model?

**oneofsix** · 28th November 2015, 16:48

Originally Posted by Ender EnZed

Nolan starting making one a couple of years ago that was still certified with the face up. Haven't heard anything about other manufacturers doing the same though.

Originally Posted by Tazz

Shark and LS2 have ones you can do that with. I think Shark did it first with their Evoline model?

add Caberg to the list of helmets certified when up or down.

**F5 Dave** · 28th November 2015, 17:11

Originally Posted by Kickaha

What a cunt, you take that back

Oh yeah? Well in time honoured internet fashion, I'm going to compare you to Hitler.

He had better dress sense.

**caseye** · 29th November 2015, 16:23

My wife rides her own bike, has done for a few years now,we ride together most of the time, we do a number of charity rides ( group rides) and take part in a lot of FBMC, LOR and other runs for different charities etc, as well as going down country with friends for a few days at a time. We've both recently, last 4 months, ended up with Bell lids, with the new fangled auto tinting visors, these are the bees knees, no need for another visor, they really do work, from clear to tinted in about 2-3 seconds. Small click forward setting allows air in, no fogging, No actual pin locks, these literally don't need them, great helmets.
they're also not 100 Bucks and normally they retail at about 7-900 hundy.
Got em from Moto Mail a couple of months ago on special with the visors thrown in, because we bought their basic colour range ones for just 5 hundy apiece.
Feel very good and safe, less noise, less buffett, less weight, an improvement on the old ones we've hung up on the garage wall.
Also Bells, but old technology.
I don't rate sharps as a tell all, doing the right thing sort of an outfit, but I do know what feels right, safe and proper, have never owned a 1 hundy helmet and never would, can't always afford the most expensive but always make sure my baby wears the best we can afford while having the most of the important things a helmet should provide.
I can't believe IT's been here this long and doesn't know who rides, who races and who simply talks shit around here.

**Swoop** · 30th November 2015, 14:55

Originally Posted by tigertim20

for fuck sakes are you lazy or stupid?

Conclusive evidence proves the verdict of "stupid".

**RDJ** · 30th November 2015, 15:42

A lot of the time helmet choice, IMO, defaults to the manufacturer that makes a helmet that meets minimum standards and fits our required head shape comfortably for long rides. For 10+ years I always bought an Arai Signet because it fitted well and was comfortable - then Arai discontinued it and I moved on to a Shoei Multitec. Then Shoei brought out a Multitec II which had an altered shape, dammit... so I bought 2x Multitec Mk I's for future use... I'm on the second thereof...