Police crackdown on unsafe helmets

[AllanB]

Cops it seems, have always been able to throw their weight around far too readily, & usually in the absence of specific ability to properly appraise
such technical matters in a scientifically valid way, yet 'guilty until proven otherwise' appears to be the norm.. & is getting steadily worse..

Valid point regarding ensuring satisfactory training or qualification for inspection (too loud apparently is enough to instruct you to have it tested at your expense.

Helmet compliance inspection. Should be a piece of piss really - print out the relevant accepted safety requirements - laminate and issue to Po-Po. Helmet should have one in/on it. How they are qualified to determine if it is suitably damaged etc may raise issues.

Link to 'stickers' here - DOT comment at the bottom interests - is it saying it is or is not accepted?

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/r...he-right-gear/

[skippa1]

Bloody coppers should never have been permitted to pull "random" stops of people exercising their right to freely traverse the Queens highway..
.. blatantly spearfishing for revenue.. its an abuse of authority..
& "probable cause" ought to be a minimum standard - such as in places where a citizen has fundamental written constitutional rights - under law.

Cops it seems, have always been able to throw their weight around far too readily, & usually in the absence of specific ability to properly appraise
such technical matters in a scientifically valid way, yet 'guilty until proven otherwise' appears to be the norm.. & is getting steadily worse..

Dont make me agree with you.....cunt

[Big Dog]

Valid point regarding ensuring satisfactory training or qualification for inspection (too loud apparently is enough to instruct you to have it tested at your expense.

Helmet compliance inspection. Should be a piece of piss really - print out the relevant accepted safety requirements - laminate and issue to Po-Po. Helmet should have one in/on it. How they are qualified to determine if it is suitably damaged etc may raise issues.

Link to 'stickers' here - DOT comment at the bottom interests - is it saying it is or is not accepted?

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/r...he-right-gear/

DOT is acceptable provided the helmet was manufactured and sold in the us.
It is relatively useless though because all it means is the manufacturer wrote a letter to the right person saying they believe the helmet is safe. Unless it has changed in the last 4 years there is no burden of proof... unless someone comes a cropper and can prove the helmet defective and contributed to the injury.

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[G4L4XY]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/7391...at-roundabouts

About 90% of people don't even do this, I've even seen cops who don't indicate when exiting round a bouts. Some people like to turn right from the outside lane which isn't legal. Too many muppets out there.

[AllanB]

I never agreed with the signal out if going straight through change. Also seemed obvious that if you were going straight through the roundabout no need to signal, turning 'around' signal.

I see too many now either doing nothing, signaling wrong (the right indicator flash as they head straight) and the people entering the roundabout presuming they are signaling correctly .....

Interestingly my daughter is learning to drive - first time straight through one when I tell her she has to flash the 'turn' on a straight through she asks why - I'm not turning. First lesson for her - don't expect common sense to any other driver on the road!

[Berries]

Interestingly my daughter is learning to drive - first time straight through one when I tell her she has to flash the 'turn' on a straight through she asks why - I'm not turning. First lesson for her - don't expect common sense to any other driver on the road!

Second lesson should be to tell her she is turning.

[5ive]

DOT is acceptable provided the helmet was manufactured and sold in the us.
It is relatively useless though because all it means is the manufacturer wrote a letter to the right person saying they believe the helmet is safe. Unless it has changed in the last 4 years there is no burden of proof... unless someone comes a cropper and can prove the helmet defective and contributed to the injury.

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Hey bud, saw you at the petrol station Friday arvo on the way home. I've never been tooted at before by a biker, and it took me a couple of seconds to register it was a bike, and someone that knew me

I've seen you off of your bike, and your bike without you on it quite a lot, but I have to say, gear on and riding, that helmet looked very legal

[swbarnett]

Interestingly my daughter is learning to drive - first time straight through one when I tell her she has to flash the 'turn' on a straight through she asks why - I'm not turning. First lesson for her - don't expect common sense to any other driver on the road!

You need to go back to school and study basic geometry.

Tell me again how the black line below is straight?

[Scuba_Steve]

You need to go back to school and study basic geometry.

Tell me again how the black line below is straight?

You're usually better than this... how would you explain someone to take that path???
"turn into the roundabout & turn out on the side directly opposite"??? No! you'd say "head straight through the roundabout"
Just like it's considered going straight on windy roads or anytime you're not pulling off the road... The road doesn't have to be physically straight for someone to travel straight along it

[Berries]

Straight through at a roundabout -

[AllanB]

You're usually better than this... how would you explain someone to take that path???
"turn into the roundabout & turn out on the side directly opposite"??? No! you'd say "head straight through the roundabout"
Just like it's considered going straight on windy roads or anytime you're not pulling off the road... The road doesn't have to be physically straight for someone to travel straight along it

What he said.

Conceptually straight then.......

If the bloody roundabout was not there you would be travelling 'straight' through a intersection between two (or more) roads.


Christchurch's large double lane roundabouts are shockers - I do not enjoy travelling on them. There was a truck and trailer lying on it's side in one a week back guess he got his knee down too low.

[swbarnett]

how would you explain someone to take that path???
"turn into the roundabout & turn out on the side directly opposite"??? No! you'd say "head straight through the roundabout"

Yes and no. You could also tell someone to take the second exit.

Just like it's considered going straight on windy roads or anytime you're not pulling off the road... The road doesn't have to be physically straight for someone to travel straight along it

True when there's no intersection involved. I see it the same as any other intersection on a bend. The "straight-through" in this case is to stay on the bend.

When all is said and done it's really only about courtesy for the vehicle waiting to enter.

[nerrrd]

What he said.

Conceptually straight then.......

If the bloody roundabout was not there you would be travelling 'straight' through a intersection between two (or more) roads.

Trouble is, once you're on the roundabout you have the right of way, whether turning or going straight through; in a normal intersection you have to stop and give way to other traffic if turning right (and until recently left as well), which is where the confusion arises IMHO.

So it's best to keep the other traffic informed of what you intend to do, ie indicate when leaving the roundabout, simple as that.

[Moi]

You turn onto a roundabout and turn off a roundabout - hence the need to signal...

You signal so others have an indication - why those flashing amber lights are called indicators - of what you intend to do...

You do it because you've been told to do it...

You do it to prove your car has indicators fitted as standard equipment, rather than as optional extras...

You do it to confuse those of lesser intelligence...

You do it so you can advance to bigger and better roundabouts...

You do it so you don't piss-off those waiting to enter the roundabout...

You just do it!

[eldog]

You do it to prove your car has indicators fitted as standard equipment, rather than as optional extras...

It has been proven that modern cars and SUVs have painted on indicators.
they are just there for looks.


Liked the bigger and better roundabouts - been there OMG but it works, walked to the center under the Arc, watching the mayhem.