Downsizing - interesting read.

[AllanB]

I would have fitted wheelie bars to that scoot before riding it!

[Hads]

I downsized too, a lot more fun, went from a KLX250 to a KDX200, the KDX is a lot more fun on the Akaroa Highway.

[husaberg]

I've been collecting bits for a while. So far I've got a ZZR600 complete engine/systems, cart slicks and wheels and the beginnings of a chassis. Dead mobility scooters look to be a dime a dozen.

But I'm thinking the ZZR is too big to hide under any realistic bodywork. And let's face it you'd struggle to actually more torque than a 450 dirt bike motor makes.

I've been looking for something low profile, horizontal-ish cyl maybe?

Suzuki Burgman 600

[Ocean1]

Suzuki Burgman 600

Different. But too long.

I'm keen on the idea of a sleeper. Something that wouldn't look too out of place in the supermarket, creeping around on an electric secondary. So it's got to fit, (without too many sticky-out bits) inside something like this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/health-beau...1250911261.htm

I could chop and channel the body to gain 100mm extra in any direction, but that's about it.

One of the more serious design constraints is the need for a differential. Probably wouldn't need one for the business of hooning around town at speeds likely to be seen as inappropriate, and possibly slightly illegal, but for creeping around I reckon you'd need one.

Unless, (and I've just thought of this), you just direct drive the main engine to a solid rear, (go-cart style) and save the main engine for hooning and then fit an electric drive via sprag clutches to each rear axle. No reverse but.

[husaberg]

Different. But too long.

I'm keen on the idea of a sleeper. Something that wouldn't look too out of place in the supermarket, creeping around on an electric secondary. So it's got to fit, (without too many sticky-out bits) inside something like this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/health-beau...1250911261.htm

I could chop and channel the body to gain 100mm extra in any direction, but that's about it.

One of the more serious design constraints is the need for a differential. Probably wouldn't need one for the business of hooning around town at speeds likely to be seen as inappropriate, and possibly slightly illegal, but for creeping around I reckon you'd need one.

Unless, (and I've just thought of this), you just direct drive the main engine to a solid rear, (go-cart style) and save the main engine for hooning and then fit an electric drive via sprag clutches to each rear axle. No reverse but.

Shit there is not much room their is there
Maybe lift the goal posts
http://www.trademe.co.nz/health-beau...1248303289.htm

[Grumph]

Shit there is not much room their is there
Maybe lift the goal posts

that's just asking to be turned into a SMART car.

Mr Ocean's first choice could IMO have a small block Guzzi stuck up front with a little cosmetic modification. You'd still keep the 'lectric for stealth mode - and reverse. No diff needed IMO, just a right angle drive - but if you did want one, one wheel could freewheel on a one way clutch hub.

[husaberg]

that's just asking to be turned into a SMART car.

Mr Ocean's first choice could IMO have a small block Guzzi stuck up front with a little cosmetic modification. You'd still keep the 'lectric for stealth mode - and reverse. No diff needed IMO, just a right angle drive - but if you did want one, one wheel could freewheel on a one way clutch hub.

Likely amnywhere a guzzi would fit so would a CX Honda
Maybe a Goldwing 1000 as well if the cowl was lifted up

[Ocean1]

Mr Ocean's first choice could IMO have a small block Guzzi stuck up front with a little cosmetic modification. You'd still keep the 'lectric for stealth mode - and reverse. No diff needed IMO, just a right angle drive - but if you did want one, one wheel could freewheel on a one way clutch hub.

Guzzi is still too long. The one way hub is a reasonable default design, same as my lawn mower. One thing my mower does if you gas it in a corner though, is to completely ignore any steering input and go straight into the hedge.

Engine is probably just a big dirt bike single with a lectric start. Or something like an ER6 twin. Think you could stuff all that inside the body, plus a decent battery and a 24v secondary drive. Be a bit rowdy though...

[husaberg]

Guzzi is still too long. The one way hub is a reasonable default design, same as my lawn mower. One thing my mower does if you gas it in a corner though, is to completely ignore any steering input and go straight into the hedge.

Engine is probably just a big dirt bike single with a lectric start. Or something like an ER6 twin. Think you could stuff all that inside the body, plus a decent battery and a 24v secondary drive. Be a bit rowdy though...

If its compact you are after why not a gas turbine now that would be a most excellent noise.

http://jetandturbineowners.proboards...ting-gentlemen