This can't be possible

[RDJ]

What a crock-o-shit, ya don't have to READ the dials, sheesh.....

If ya DO 'have' to read the dials ya shouldn't be on the road in anything flasher than roller-skates...

Addendum: it is profoundly to be hoped that you are not engaged in traffic management.

[Katman]

It's abundantly clear why some of y'all prefer to ignore reality, but the fact is, it takes an irreducible amount of time to process information gained from reading instruments/dials and acting effectively thereupon.

The time taken to do that is time not spent watching the road and assessing and managing risks.

The more time and the more frequently the threat of fines require people to fixate on their speedometer, the less likely it is that they will spend an appropriate amount of time staying safe.

I spent 4 years couriering in London. Your description of people's limitations is laughable.

(Then again, most people's efforts are laughable).

[Voltaire]

I spent 4 years couriering in London. Your description of people's limits is laughable.

Then again, most people's efforts are laughable.

Couriers never had time to look at speedos

[Big Dog]

Even if it takes 3 seconds to process the data, that doesn't mean you need to look at the dial the whole 3 seconds.

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[awayatc]

I generally agree with RDJ
but Sorry, a guy or girl is playing cricket or tennis and how much time do they have estimate speed and trajectory line length and make a decision as to what to do and then act .......

Big difference is that on our wee cricket pitch there is not only an umpire, but also a twat that kicks you of the paddock if the ball you hit perfect in every way is a touch faster then some random (but very rigid) number.

it makes the game safer you see...?

now how much fun is that game of cricket now all of a sudden....?

[scumdog]

Addendum: it is profoundly to be hoped that you are not engaged in traffic management.

See post #139 and reconsider...

[RDJ]

Allow me to provide an example of how (at least one representative) of the New Zealand police is laughably disconnected from reality.

Last November, I applied for a renewal of my firearms licence. The Arms Officer (along with other comments) was of the 'effing' opinion that in America, their system was completely 'effed up', because firearms rather than people were registered, and you could go to any firearms show in America and buy a lethal firearm 'without a problem'.

Nonsense on stilts.

The facts are that existing US gun laws apply just as much to gun shows as they do to any other place where guns are sold. Since 1938, persons selling firearms have been required to obtain a federal firearms license. If a dealer sells a gun from a storefront, from a room in his home or from a table at a gun show, the rules are exactly the same: he can get authorization from the FBI for the sale only after the FBI runs its “instant” background check (which often takes days to complete). As a result, firearms are the most severely regulated consumer product in the United States — the only product for which FBI permission is required for every single sale. Conversely, people who are not engaged in the business of selling firearms, but who sell firearms from time to time (such as a man who sells a hunting rifle to his brother-in-law), are not required to obtain the federal license required of gun dealers or to call the FBI before completing the sale. Similarly, if a gun collector dies and his widow wants to sell the guns, she does not need a federal firearms license because she is just selling off inherited property and is not “engaged in the business.” And if the widow doesn’t want to sell her deceased husband’s guns by taking out a classified ad in the newspaper, it is lawful for her to rent a table at a gun show and sell the entire collection. If you walk along the aisles at any gun show, you will find that the overwhelming majority of guns offered for sale are from federally licensed dealers. Guns sold by private individuals (such as gun collectors getting rid of a gun or two over the the weekend) are the distinct minority. According to an NIJ study released in December 1997 (“Homicide in Eight U.S. Cities,” a report that covers much more than homicide), only 2 percent of criminal guns come from gun shows. You cannot buy a firearm in America without appropriate identification and a background check. But of course if you want your firearms license renewed in New Zealand, you have to agree with the Arms Officer.

You have to ask yourself, in how many other aspects of law, are NZ police officers uninformed and prejudiced because of their personal preferences?

The answer is left as an exercise for the student.

[RDJ]

See post #139 and reconsider...

I saw it. And I reconsidered it, based on the facts. Please do the same.

[scumdog]

Allow me to provide an example of how (at least one representative) of the New Zealand police is laughably disconnected from reality.

Last November, I applied for a renewal of my firearms licence. The Arms Officer (along with other comments) was of the 'effing' opinion that in America, their system was completely 'effed up', because firearms rather than people were registered, and you could go to any firearms show in America and buy a lethal firearm 'without a problem'.

Nonsense on stilts.

The facts are that existing US gun laws apply just as much to gun shows as they do to any other place where guns are sold. Since 1938, persons selling firearms have been required to obtain a federal firearms license. If a dealer sells a gun from a storefront, from a room in his home or from a table at a gun show, the rules are exactly the same: he can get authorization from the FBI for the sale only after the FBI runs its “instant” background check (which often takes days to complete). As a result, firearms are the most severely regulated consumer product in the United States — the only product for which FBI permission is required for every single sale. Conversely, people who are not engaged in the business of selling firearms, but who sell firearms from time to time (such as a man who sells a hunting rifle to his brother-in-law), are not required to obtain the federal license required of gun dealers or to call the FBI before completing the sale. Similarly, if a gun collector dies and his widow wants to sell the guns, she does not need a federal firearms license because she is just selling off inherited property and is not “engaged in the business.” And if the widow doesn’t want to sell her deceased husband’s guns by taking out a classified ad in the newspaper, it is lawful for her to rent a table at a gun show and sell the entire collection. If you walk along the aisles at any gun show, you will find that the overwhelming majority of guns offered for sale are from federally licensed dealers. Guns sold by private individuals (such as gun collectors getting rid of a gun or two over the the weekend) are the distinct minority. According to an NIJ study released in December 1997 (“Homicide in Eight U.S. Cities,” a report that covers much more than homicide), only 2 percent of criminal guns come from gun shows. You cannot buy a firearm in America without appropriate identification and a background check. But of course if you want your firearms license renewed in New Zealand, you have to agree with the Arms Officer.

You have to ask yourself, in how many other aspects of law, are NZ police officers uninformed and prejudiced because of their personal preferences?

The answer is left as an exercise for the student.

Probably no more than any other aspect of the law??

And as far as gun-shows go in the US? - More than a few get approached at the show, deal done - then sale completed 'after hours', no questions asked.

[RDJ]

Probably no more than any other aspect of the law??

And as far as gun-shows go in the US? - More than a few get approached at the show, deal done - then sale completed 'after hours', no questions asked.

So those are illegal transactions, exactly like Heather D-P-A conducted with the NZ Police. She was engaging in criminal activity, and the police followed their procedures, but she is still not charged with any breach of the law... An 'interesting' situation. Yes?

Du Plessis-Allan spoke to her Story co-host Duncan Garner the day the story broke on TV3 and told him those who worked on the story knew it "was likely to land us in a spot of bother with the cops".

She described how the rifle was bought using a mail order form which was downloaded from the internet, filled out with bogus details and sent to Gun City.

[Berries]

Allow me to provide an example of how (at least one representative) of the New Zealand police is laughably disconnected from reality.

Last November, I applied for a renewal of my firearms licence.......

Woaahhhh. What the fuck does that have to do with looking at your speedo?

[bogan]

Woaahhhh. What the fuck does that have to do with looking at your speedo?

I thought it was an example of one (RDJ) being disconnected from reality. Just like all the 3 sec checks were too.

It's abundantly clear why some of y'all prefer to ignore reality, but the fact is, it takes an irreducible amount of time to process information gained from reading instruments/dials and acting effectively thereupon.

The time taken to do that is time not spent watching the road and assessing and managing risks.

The more time and the more frequently the threat of fines require people to fixate on their speedometer, the less likely it is that they will spend an appropriate amount of time staying safe.

Drew - and others with his genetic competencies - will always be perfect riders/drivers (yeah that was sarcastic, in case you didn't notice) but for the rest of the mortals driving and riding, the more time the police insist they watch their speedos, the less time they will be watching for others driving and riding on the shared road.

Oh contraire, the amount has already been reduced from 3 seconds...

[awayatc]

Oh contraire, the amount has already been reduced from 3 seconds...

Hard to be taken serious as an "intelligent" person if you show of your French non existing vocabulary and get half of it wrong.....
dumb arse...

au contraire ......

conard

[Katman]

Hard to be taken serious as an "intelligent" person if you show of your French non existing vocabulary and get half of it wrong.....
dumb arse...

aux contraire ......

If you're going to question someone else's intelligence it always pays to be sure of your own.

Perhaps you mean au contraire.

[jonbuoy]

For instance.....

in the Netherlands the politicians ( who are supposed to represent the population )
Asked the general population what they thought about speed, speedig and policing of same.....
They also asked what bothered them the most on the road....

Tail gating was number 1 annoyance, and therefore now carries a very hefty fine...
speeding didnt bother anybody, so speed limits went up, policing went down.
Speed cameras were sold to nz and oz and other countries where the chosen few decide what is good for the dumb masses, and people don't mind getting fucked over....

Doesn't make sense as to how driving 140kph on a quiet highway gets you a fine but driving far too closely as the majority of people do in the morning and evening commute goes unregulated.