What can I say?

[rastuscat]

I'd say you could break you neck in a minor tumble with your helmet opened like that.

Hearing ya.

For the record, that photo was taken in the St Johns carpark, blazing along at 5 - 8 kmh. It was staged, so the photographer could head of for his morning coffee.

[nzspokes]

I cant even rationalise that myself.

I always wear ATGATT on my moped and motorbikes, but when I'm road cycling I'm happy to go downhill at 70 kmh in lycra.

Can't even figure that one myself.

I think riding up hill on a hot day at 15kph answers the question.

[rastuscat]

I think riding up hill on a hot day at 15kph answers the question.

One day I hope to be able to maintain 15 kmh on a 12 percent hill.

Sigh.

[rastuscat]

. .

Neither of those had keys for the bikes, so happy to see them

[PistonBlown]

When I got my first motorbike at 17 the local cop shop was offering a training course. All you had to do was turn up on a Sunday morning for 2 hours over 8 weeks - there was the practical test at the end and hopefully you'd have your full license. The big attraction for us was getting a full license sorted quickly but of course the cops motivation was that us arrogant idiots would actually be taught how to be better/safer riders.

After a number of polite reminders about gear, one Sunday morning we were shown a slideshow of photos from the local A&E of what happens when you don't wear it...by the second slide the jokes had stopped and the room was silent. The following Sunday everyone was kitted out.

[rambaldi]

I cant even rationalise that myself.

I always wear ATGATT on my moped and motorbikes, but when I'm road cycling I'm happy to go downhill at 70 kmh in lycra.

Can't even figure that one myself.

And do you even fight vehemently against all those that suggest you have to wear a helmet while cycling? Saying That they just discourage people from cycling so you shouldn't wear em? I guess if you are going to die from the de-gloving whether your noggin survives or not is immaterial.

[AllanB]

I'm on record over the years on KB that if you are not wearing reasonable protective gear then I resent you having access to ACC funds I have contributed to. But the freedom brigade will appear stating I am proposing to remove their right to wear what they like (aside from a helmet), bla bla bla.

And those fuckers who get so pissed they end up at A&E should have to pay a big charge for their stupidly.


Back to the gear, would it not be a great incentive to gear up on your bike if the Govt subsidized the purchase of such gear? They are very happy to load up our Rego fees, how about putting some of that money into something that could prevent serious injury?

[RDJ]

Allan - your proposition is IMO too commonsensical to be adopted by either career ACC troughing-bureaucrats or transient elected politico-thieves. Call me cynical... I am.

[rastuscat]

And do you even fight vehemently against all those that suggest you have to wear a helmet while cycling? Saying That they just discourage people from cycling so you shouldn't wear em? I guess if you are going to die from the de-gloving whether your noggin survives or not is immaterial.

I've actually campaigned against cycle helmets. That didn't go so well when I wore a blue suit.

[Oakie]

One day I hope to be able to maintain 15 kmh on a 12 percent hill.

Sigh.

Mrs Oakie got passed on her 250 by a cyclist coming down Dyers Pass Road once.

[rambaldi]

I've actually campaigned against cycle helmets. That didn't go so well when I wore a blue suit.

What were your reasons for that stance? I can understand that most falls on a push bike are going to be reasonably low speed etc. but it is still your head and what not.

[Gremlin]

Mrs Oakie got passed on her 250 by a cyclist coming down Dyers Pass Road once.

Make no mistake, the good cyclists can show an excellent turn of speed, including a higher cornering speed.

[eldog]

Back to the gear, would it not be a great incentive to gear up on your bike if the Govt subsidized the purchase of such gear? They are very happy to load up our Rego fees, how about putting some of that money into something that could prevent serious injury?

Maybe GST free? Careful of shops hiking up the price to take over the GST.
Some sort of 'bonus' if you have an accident and are wearing some gear. Most of that though will be the lower amount of damage sustained.

Some sort of register on gear and accidents, how it protects/survives maybe available to bikers to show accidents with/without gear.

Would agree most people who would turn up at a training event would get gear if they saw what can happen..... Everyone else who didn't or couldn't, wouldn't care anyway.

[eldog]

Make no mistake, the good cyclists can show an excellent turn of speed, including a higher cornering speed.

Saw what happened to 2 friends on cycles
1 broken thigh SMIDSY low speed, affects him all his life
1 grazed hands, cut to head/shoulder, legs etc, He was going at least the speed limit when a car pulled out in front of him. Over he went onto the bonnet and then road, very lucky.

[AllanB]

Shit man even the incentive to book and pay for a training session and when you turn up you are given a voucher to redeem a free .... set of gloves, boots, or something. Government could easily arrange a bulk purchase/rebate scheme with a major importer and if you had to go to your local bike shop to redeem and order the gear it may have spin-off benefits for the shop by nature of additional gear purchases or parts/consumables by the punter.