NZTA response to question about wire rope barriers.

[Berries]

Do you mean "haven't heard of one"?

I mean I have not been involved in the investigation of one. I have read the reports of several.

[bogan]

The retardation is palpable.

Given that reductio ad absurdum, it sure is

[sidecar bob]

Given that reductio ad absurdum, it sure is

Cool, it must be if you say it is champ. I guess you're one of the retards that rides differently around W.R.B's than other hazards because it's all a conspiracy man, they're out to get us with them.
Get over yourselves & start living rather than getting all wound up over stuff that's essentially fuck all that you can't change because in the scheme of things you rate as tiny wee men with a chip.
If you can't handle riding past a piece of street furniture without panicking about its design flaws maybe it's time to reconsider your mode of transport.

[swbarnett]

I ride my bikes as if binning them will kill me,

This is a good argument against WRB. Why would you want to improve the odds of dieing (or at least being maimed) if you do come off?

[bogan]

Cool, it must be if you say it is champ. I guess you're one of the retards that rides differently around W.R.B's than other hazards because it's all a conspiracy man, they're out to get us with them. Fuckin idiot.

I'm just clever enough to know the WRB issue is that a safety measure is more of a safety hazard for a subset of road users if they made their own error; and unnecessarily so as well. The retardation in your post is to completely overlook this point.

[eldog]

I ride to my skill level and what I consider safe. I am not paranoid about WRBs etc only the muppets who tailgate me and change lanes into me while I am riding along side WRBs and other street furniture.

ok barriers and WRB are maybe a necessary evil but that doesn't mean that they can't have extras safety features that may improve the chances of the minority of users.

how often am I hearing in the media about minority's and their rights, often they don't have to pay anything toward what they are given/use. Bikers pay to use the highways and byways of our beautiful country, why can't we have something that affects us too.

[Big Dog]

I ride to my skill level and what I consider safe. I am not paranoid about WRBs etc only the muppets who tailgate me and change lanes into me while I am riding along side WRBs and other street furniture.

ok barriers and WRB are maybe a necessary evil but that doesn't mean that they can't have extras safety features that may improve the chances of the minority of users.

how often am I hearing in the media about minority's and their rights, often they don't have to pay anything toward what they are given/use. Bikers pay to use the highways and byways of our beautiful country, why can't we have something that affects us too.

Because tptb say it is not a cost effective use of the available funds.

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[eldog]

Because tptb say it is not a cost effective use of the available funds.

So we afford to bring in refugees? And not protect our current citizens?

rearrange the budget priorities, increase the petrol tax
theres no excuse really.

[sidecar bob]

So we afford to bring in migrants? And not protect our current citizens?

rearrange the budget priorities, increase the petrol tax
theres no excuse really.

Who pays the migrants?
How much protection do you want & where exactly do you want it?
You could possibly get a bulk discount deal on cotton wool.

[Big Dog]

So we afford to bring in migrants? And not protect our current citizens?

rearrange the budget priorities, increase the petrol tax
theres no excuse really.

I hate to burst anyone's bubble but 30 years ago barriers were fairly rare. We are not even close to catching up with a lot of the nation's we compare ourselves to.

When you are deciding how to spend your budget at home do you spend it on the smallest changes first?
You have 100 blue ray discs and 100 dvds.
Do you spend $200 on a new DVD Player because you have one dvd that won't play in your current player or do buy a new $200 blue ray because you don't have one at all?

As to the extra tax I can't afford more tax.
I can barely afford to feed my family as it is.

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[Big Dog]

The migrant issue is one of social responsibility. Nothing to do with road policies.

Let's say John Key decided he liked being pm so much that he declared nz a Republic and himself president for life, started massacring royalists, Christians, civil libertarians, labour voters and other dissenters.
Let say you fell into several of those groups and someone close to you nominated you for the others to save their skin.
Now how important is the refugee programs of other countries?

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[eldog]

I hate to burst anyone's bubble but 30 years ago barriers were fairly rare. We are not even close to catching up with a lot of the nation's we compare ourselves to.

When you are deciding how to spend your budget at home do you spend it on the smallest changes first?
You have 100 blue ray discs and 100 dvds.
Do you spend $200 on a new DVD Player because you have one dvd that won't play in your current player or do buy a new $200 blue ray because you don't have one at all?

As to the extra tax I can't afford more tax.
I can barely afford to feed my family as it is.

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I have about 5 DVDs in total.
i have a DVDs player but don't use it
i spend my budget on mortgage first and foremost.
i am current fortunate to have to worry on far less than you obviously.

i would buy the blurry because I know in the long run its better for the community.

we don't have to catchup, we need to think ahead and smarter.

I would blu Ray existing sites then plan extensions as when I can afford it.

[eldog]

The migrant issue is one of social responsibility. Nothing to do with road policies.

Let's say John Key decided he liked being pm so much that he declared nz a Republic and himself president for life, started massacring royalists, Christians, civil libertarians, labour voters and other dissenters.
Let say you fell into several of those groups and someone close to you nominated you for the others to save their skin.
Now how important is the refugee programs of other countries?

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i don't fall into any of these groups
not important for me other countries problems

social responsibility-when we become perfect then we can help others
I pay taxes too.... Some of which goes to pay for education, social welfare, benefits, police, garbage collections etc how much more social responsibility do I need to do.
I also help out in community groups for free and make donations
would prefer dealing with our own ones like Wairoa employment - ever been there?

sorry I can't help you out Big Dog
I found out last year to my cost it isn't what I am good at.

[eldog]

Who pays the migrants?
How much protection do you want & where exactly do you want it?
You could possibly get a bulk discount deal on cotton wool.

How much starting off kit did you get when you started your working life?
just wait and see.

Drop us a line when you need a hand when/if your entangled in a WRB or similar

[Big Dog]

Me thinks you worry too much.

Then only thing we can all be certain of is none of us are going to live forever so we need to do all the living we can.

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