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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    It is.

    So let's, for now ignore the fact that it's a minuscule part of barriers nationwide and that it's taken a decade longer than the rest of the world, (during which time every official response to the issue has been "there's no problem") and focus on the good news.

    Thanks to whichever of the various official entities share responsibility for the project.
    Maybe it's due to the fact motorbikes are no longer hidden in the ACC rego cost and ACC has woken up and has started to pressurise the NZTA and councils about road conditions and design.

    like you said it's a start - at last.... May it proceed and be implemented as we think it should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    If you're really being blown around that much, you should be thankful the wire is there to stop you being blown into an oncoming truck.
    I'd rather hit the truck than the barrier. Besides, there may not be any traffic. The barrier is always there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    Personally I've never been blown around that much by wind, so I get the feeling you're just making shit up.
    Depends on the bike to a large extent. Was blown across two lanes of the AK motorway on the CBX. Not so much of a problem on my current bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    Maybe it's due to the fact motorbikes are no longer hidden in the ACC rego cost and ACC has woken up and has started to pressurise the NZTA and councils about road conditions and design.

    like you said it's a start - at last.... May it proceed and be implemented as we think it should.
    Aye. But in the meantime they're still installing WRB and Armco with the posts fully exposed.

    And planting more and more posts with no regard to this:

    Quote Originally Posted by NZ Constabulary
    In this same period there were 97 deaths from collisions with posts, 70 from hitting traffic signs and 93 from hitting unprotected trees.
    So again:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Which begs the question "Why is there a dramatic growth in the installation of posts and signs?"
    Particularly those around the outside of curvs, (usually telling us there's a curve there) which, (given their own stat's above) rather than plain ignorance almost has to be something a bit more sinister, dunnit?

    Or can it really be explained by incompetence, inter-departmental in-fighting and willful ignorance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    ... Particularly those around the outside of curves, (usually telling us there's a curve there) which, (given their own stats above) rather than plain ignorance almost has to be something a bit more sinister, dunnit?

    Or can it really be explained by incompetence, inter-departmental in-fighting and willful ignorance?
    I do wonder if they are just not prepared to read and accept the evidence of best practice from Europe?

    If someone from NZTA is reading this, and I hope they are sensible enough to keep an eye on what is being said here along with other interested parties, then they should be aware that European reports are easily accessible to anyone and they need to be discussing what they are doing in an intelligent manner... hoodwinking doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    If you're really being blown around that much, you should be thankful the wire is there to stop you being blown into an oncoming truck. Personally I've never been blown around that much by wind, so I get the feeling you're just making shit up.
    Try the Mangere bridge on a rough day, I try to hide beside a car or truck to break the blast. Ive been moved quite a way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    It is.

    So let's, for now ignore the fact that it's a minuscule part of barriers nationwide and that it's taken a decade longer than the rest of the world, (during which time every official response to the issue has been "there's no problem") and focus on the good news.

    Thanks to whichever of the various official entities share responsibility for the project.
    Like all things nzta it will be try it somewhere. Extend it where justified. There is talk in the article about coro loop getting it first due to the disproportionate death toll there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    you thick cunt, circuits aren't primarily designed with crash barriers in high risk spots, they have things called runoff and gravel traps.
    FFS catch up ya dopy prick....

    And where there isnt run off and gravel traps derrrr...

    Jeesus how do you manage each day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppleganger View Post
    FFS catch up ya dopy prick....

    And where there isnt run off and gravel traps derrrr...

    Jeesus how do you manage each day
    You are a fuckin retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    You are a fuckin retard.
    A stunning comeback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppleganger View Post
    A stunning comeback.
    I think it's all you are qualified to understand.

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    just something about Regional contributions to NZ Economy:



    it is certainly interesting that Auckland produces the highest percentage of GDP, I couldn't find anything about 80% of income tax is paid from AKL, but it wouldn't surprise me, especially since most of NZs wealthiest citizens are in AKL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    I think it's all you are qualified to understand.
    Here you go dumb cunt try reading this http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7648...oromandel-loop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppleganger View Post
    Here you go dumb cunt try reading this http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7648...oromandel-loop
    Why? Does it say something about track design?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moise View Post
    Slightly off the original topic, but has anyone noticed the very nasty barriers that have gone up on the causeway section of the NW motorway in Auckland?

    They have a thin W section with thin, steel poles supporting this. You'd have no chance if you hit it on a bike.
    Saw them today... both west bound and east bound... is it possible that some of them are temporary?

    However, considering the state of the road surface if you go fast enough you'd bounce right over the barriers...

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    That was my first thought, as the beam looks too high even for cars.

    Maybe they will look better once the work is finished, but I'm keeping out of the left lane in the meantime.

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