NZTA response to question about wire rope barriers.

[bogan]

"Does the rest of NZ really need AKL?"

What kind of idiotic question is this?
AKL is about 1/4 of our population, AKL is the economic & business capital of NZ, of course the rest of us need them!

Sure they give themselves fancy titles, but does Auckland do anything the rest of NZ doesn't?

[Big Dog]

If you worked from home, you would miss the riding.
I have worked from home, it can get you down but occasionally it has it moments too.

Not really. Riding up and down the southern becomes a bit of a drag when you have to.
The biggest thing I miss about living in provincial nz was being able to walk to work or at least cycle.
But then you come to why I moved to Auckland in the first place. All of that is a moot point without a job to go to.

if I were to change job now it would be to a job I can get to without a motor and or that I worked from home 1/2 the week.

Such is the privilege of already having a good job.


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[eldog]

"Does the rest of NZ really need AKL?"

What kind of idiotic question is this?
AKL is about 1/4 of our population, AKL is the economic & business capital of NZ, of course the rest of us need them!

Really, do you need AKL?

Almost all rural exports come from outside Akl
Almost all power comes from outside Akl
It would be just as easy to get TV from any local station
Petrol comes from Northland essentially but is imported in other centres
Forestry and logging is outside Akl
Education is carried out outside of AKL and I would argue it is of a higher and more hands on type of education that AKL needs.

Not a lot of value added items done in AKL from items that could be shipped from other ports.

It's only the number of people-housing & jobs etc that keeps AKL alive.

I could do my job outside of AKL but the amount of work opportunities for me are very small.

[Big Dog]

Sure they give themselves fancy titles, but does Auckland do anything the rest of NZ doesn't?

Turn the countries wealth into consumables.

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[eldog]

A job I can get to without a motor and or that I worked from home 1/2 the week.

Such is the privilege of already having a good job.

I find I need the break from work, travelling no matter what the mode enables me to relax before I get home and try and put a mental barrier with the issues I have there.

Its good to have that break between work and home. Occasionally they overlap sometimes good sometimes bad. A good job no matter how stressful - will have it moments when you want to chuck it away then others I realised how lucky I am.

[Big Dog]

Really, do you need AKL?

Almost all rural exports come from outside Akl
Almost all power comes from outside Akl
It would be just as easy to get TV from any local station
Petrol comes from Northland essentially but is imported in other centres
Forestry and logging is outside Akl
Education is carried out outside of AKL and I would argue it is of a higher and more hands on type of education that AKL needs.

Not a lot of value added items done in AKL from items that could be shipped from other ports.

It's only the number of people-housing & jobs etc that keeps AKL alive.

I could do my job outside of AKL but the amount of work opportunities for me are very small.

Ironically your job would cost your employer less almost anywhere else if they were not already capitalised here.

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[bogan]

Turn the countries wealth into consumables.

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Rest of NZ does that too mate.

[Big Dog]

Rest of NZ does that too mate.

Aye, but nowhere near the same efficiency...

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[bogan]

Aye, but nowhere near the same efficiency...

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I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

[eldog]

Ironically your job would cost your employer less almost anywhere else if they were not already capitalised here.

Absolutely true.
Its the transport cost that kills it.

having said that more and more of what I do is coming from China-less than the price we can buy materials for. We are becoming more of a service industry.

The people who are my customers only think about making their job easier not about how to improve it which might actually involve them in WORKING. So often I have suggested improvements and just got the FO answer.
Funny now some of those ideas are being talked about as If they were new ideas and those who said FO didn't know anything about them........

[eldog]

I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

That would be interesting to compare.

For me to compete, we have to go more automated and work smarter.
Its the fixed costs such as insurance, labour, rates etc that sets us off against the rural sector, where costs are lower but the amount of work is less (transport and power costs higher)

pity this discussion is in the WRB thread

[Big Dog]

I find I need the break from work, travelling no matter what the mode enables me to relax before I get home and try and put a mental barrier with the issues I have there.

Its good to have that break between work and home. Occasionally they overlap sometimes good sometimes bad. A good job no matter how stressful - will have it moments when you want to chuck it away then others I realised how lucky I am.

Exactly why my ideal would be either a 20 minute cycle or walk or to work from home half the week.

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[eldog]

Exactly why my ideal would be either a 20 minute cycle or walk or to work from home half the week.

Ten minutes seems to suit me, five was just a bit short (almost had to carry a shotgun both ways), living at work was interesting(surrounded by gang members and police-LOL)

Currently contemplating moving or fixing the place up. All good.

[Big Dog]

I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

Higher average incomes don't translate to higher disposable income.
It does seem to translate to more toys and more bribes for the kids.

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[MarkH]

We need the businesses that reside there.

So that is a yes, we do need them?