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    Avoiding fixed speed cameras...

    Here's a question for the gargre:

    Yesterday morning, I was pootling along Great North Road just after the intersection with Rosebank Rd.

    I was following another bike along, having just left behind the cages at the last set of lights. Now, knowing of a fixed speed camera at that location, I rolled off the throttle a little, easing back to about $0.55. At this point I observed that the bike in front of me did not slow down, and I observed some odd behavior. Said bike pops on its right indicator, and visits the other side of the road, as if to overtake. This was right by the camera.

    Now, I know that fixed cameras use sensors in the road (hence can discriminate between lanes), and I can only imagine that said biker was defeating the camera (facing towards our respective vulnerable number-plate ends). Does this work? It was odd, but the pilot of said bike looked to have employed that strategy many times before...Does anyone else out there do this? Obviously it only works if nothing is coming the other way...

    'Twas a curious incident - can anyone enlighten me further?
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    I've seen cars do it cranking some serious speed - I saw no flash. Not sure if it was on or not. How about them massive wheelies that makes the bike perpendicular to the road? im not demonstrating

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    Cool

    The lights on corners of Rosebank/Great North Rd are in fact a RED LIGHT camera...
    But as far as I understand... they no longer work...
    They were there to catch out the red light runners.

    But just further up the road on Great North Rd (on the left side of the road)... the speed camera there does work... They dont always have a camera in the box thou.... so just be careful heading towards the motorway entrance. Coming from the motorway you wont get clicked as you dont have a number plate on the front of your bike. That one is hidden in the trees.

    The other fixed speed camera is on the top of Waikamete Hill on Gt Nrth Rd.. usually a camera is in that one.
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    cameras work off a calculation of you crossing two points in the road. If you cross those points faster than a specified time, the camera will fire. You'll see the 'boxes' on the road just after the camera, and a bit further before the camera if it's facing you. I happen to know the cam you're on about too.

    However, bikes rarely trigger cameras, cos we're not heavy enough, unless you're accelerating hard on the back wheel.. but then the plate will be facing the floor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashe
    The lights on corners of Rosebank/Great North Rd are in fact a RED LIGHT camera...
    But as far as I understand... they no longer work...
    They were there to catch out the red light runners.

    But just further up the road on Great North Rd (on the left side of the road)... the speed camera there does work... They dont always have a camera in the box thou.... so just be careful. That one is hidden in the trees.

    The other one is on the top of Waikamete Hill on Gt Nrth Rd.. usually a camera is in that one.
    Yep, that's the speed camera I meant Crashe - I had to think hard about street names and suchlike, being a non-Aucklander...sorry for any confusion...

    Quote Originally Posted by bugjuice
    cameras work off a calculation of you crossing two points in the road. If you cross those points faster than a specified time, the camera will fire. You'll see the 'boxes' on the road just after the camera, and a bit further before the camera if it's facing you. I happen to know the cam you're on about too.

    However, bikes rarely trigger cameras, cos we're not heavy enough, unless you're accelerating hard on the back wheel.. but then the plate will be facing the floor!
    Aaaahhhhh! I am more enlightened now...thanks Bugjuice!
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    Yep it works. Sort of a dance. The foxtrot quick step to the left followed by a quick step back to the right. Ride the cats eyes between the wires set in the seal. Of course this gets more tricky once they re-seal that stretch of road and the wire 'box' markings are hidden.
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    I have great debate over this with many people...

    Fixed speed cameras run off the triggers in the road. I'm not sure whether it's weight, or whether it's some form of something else that detects metallic content, I've had both theories floated for me. Either way, in my experience, they don't get bikes. Full-stop. So you can flash your tits, give them the bird, pop a wheelie or even paint your plate number on the front of your bike... it doesn't matter.

    I pass one on the way to work (would see my rear) and two on the way home (1 rear, 1 front) and I have NEVER in 2 years either seen the flash (at night) or received a ticket. And I am usually doing more than the $0.10 over required. In fact, often WAY over.

    Camera vans, different story - they run radar, which does get bikes.

    Edit: I should also point out, I do know the difference between what it looks like when the camera is actually in there and when it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madboy
    I have great debate over this with many people...

    Fixed speed cameras run off the triggers in the road. I'm not sure whether it's weight, or whether it's some form of something else that detects metallic content, I've had both theories floated for me. Either way, in my experience, they don't get bikes. Full-stop. So you can flash your tits, give them the bird, pop a wheelie or even paint your plate number on the front of your bike... it doesn't matter.

    I pass one on the way to work (would see my rear) and two on the way home (1 rear, 1 front) and I have NEVER in 2 years either seen the flash (at night) or received a ticket. And I am usually doing more than the $0.10 over required. In fact, often WAY over.

    Camera vans, different story - they run radar, which does get bikes.

    Edit: I should also point out, I do know the difference between what it looks like when the camera is actually in there and when it isn't.
    The fixed camera on SH1 going up to pram flashes when your hooting it..

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    Most fixed speed cameras function by a magnetic induction loop under the road, when metal passes throught his field it generates a variance in the current, tripping the camera.

    People who think they're weight sensitive = wrong, most are sensitive enough to be triggered by the metal toecap in your boot.

    Easy way to get past them is to simply ride down the centerline between the sensor pads.
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    How many cops does it take to write a ticket?

    What I thought was funny when I was push biking to uni the other day, I see 3x cops+3x cop cars + laser gun on the side of the road, pointing up the road to where a fixed speed camera is located (approx 50m). Now does that or does that not suggest to you the either the cops were redundant or that the fixed speed cameras are a waiste of time?? :spudwhat:
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    interesting Oo dun think theres many down here thou :>

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    Yeah what I do is 'accidentally change lanes' at the right time.

    No matter how they pick up things etc they cannot pick you up when you are not over the loop of wire which has a current generated when something metal goes above it eh (or pressureplate).

    Just 'lanesplit' practice as such :P

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    tristank: You of all people should know about the lane "missing" the detection stuff on the Pak Highway...

    That's the other way to get around it. If you travel the road often, check to see if the whole lane has been cut etc for whatever the trigger is... some roads haven't been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhunt
    What I thought was funny when I was push biking to uni the other day, I see 3x cops+3x cop cars + laser gun on the side of the road, pointing up the road to where a fixed speed camera is located (approx 50m). Now does that or does that not suggest to you the either the cops were redundant or that the fixed speed cameras are a waiste of time?? :spudwhat:
    It's called rat cunning. They're nailing people who slow for the camera then boot it. Probably do quite well out of it too.
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    Want to avoid speed camera tickets? Just open your god damned eyes and look at what's ahead of you. If you get caught by one of these things you deserve the ticket simply for being a dumb arse.

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