ACC/Pro Rider Silver course

[fxxk]

I'm wondering when the topic of using High beam instead of low beam gets brought up.

The trouble with motorbikes isn't just the lack of colour / contrast, it's the physical size. I ride and drive a car, covering a great distance in the car for work. The greatest risk I've observed is when a vehicle is stopped at an intersection waiting to turn (either way), you're approaching behind another car who then turns left in front of the waiting vehicle, instinctively you move to the right to go around the car, the car waiting to turn out thinks "great there's a gap, that cars turning off, away I go" meanwhile your hidden behind that turning car about to pop out the other side of it and into that car pulling out, no fucking vest or strobe light is going to make you be seen, you physically are not occupying any space that sticks out behind that turning car, now you could sit on the left behind that car, but obviously you know what trouble that brings

[nerrrd]

I think the boys in here against hi-vis are more concerned about not looking as bad-ass on their bikes if they had to wear hi-vis than any imagined drawbacks of wearing hi-vis. "But no one can see my patches"

Some of us have patches on our hivis. And by some of us I mean me. AND I sewed them on myself.

[fxxk]

P.s, even driving a ute with the lights on, people will still drive straight ahead through a roundabout without looking, or once it's too late

[Moise]

How do ACC know who was wearing a high vis? When I was injured in an accident recently, no one checked whether or not I was wearing one.

Wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference in my case.

[swbarnett]

you can run it. no one here will stop you. But you may see the disco lights in the distance

It's not the cops I'd be worried about.

theres another side to Auckland?

Yep, some of the best roads in these parts are there if you can find your way through the labyrinth.

[swbarnett]

I think the boys in here against hi-vis are more concerned about not looking as bad-ass on their bikes if they had to wear hi-vis than any imagined drawbacks of wearing hi-vis. "But no one can see my patches"

Last patch I wore was in the Scouts.

I'm not against hi-viz per se. It's just that there's more than one way to skin a cat and I want to be free to choose the way that suits me.

[swbarnett]

I'm wondering when the topic of using High beam instead of low beam gets brought up.

Wonder no more. You just did.

Quickest way to blind drivers.

[BuzzardNZ]

If I wore Hi Viz my ponch would still be seen.

Fixed it for you

[eldog]

The trouble with motorbikes isn't just the lack of colour / contrast, it's the physical size. I ride and drive a car, covering a great distance in the car for work. The greatest risk I've observed is when a vehicle is stopped at an intersection waiting to turn (either way), you're approaching behind another car who then turns left in front of the waiting vehicle, instinctively you move to the right to go around the car, the car waiting to turn out thinks "great there's a gap, that cars turning off, away I go" meanwhile your hidden behind that turning car about to pop out the other side of it and into that car pulling out, no fucking vest or strobe light is going to make you be seen, you physically are not occupying any space that sticks out behind that turning car, now you could sit on the left behind that car, but obviously you know what trouble that brings

its all about visibility and getting a better sense of how far away you are from another road user point of view.

smaller vehicles don't pose a threat so they get ignored till its too late.

[Old Steve]

My strategy is to ride a bike that looks like a patrol bike, and ride it like I'm patrolling. Doesn't matter the colour I wear, works for me.
It sure increases the paranoia too. People ditch thein cellphones when I stare at them. Just in case, I suppose.

I rode an white, ex-Police Honda ST1100 in Queensland. Marvellously visible! Cars coming down side roads would dip as the brakes were slammed on, cars would start to ease into my lane and dart quickly back from whence they'd come, "S*#T, that's a Police bike!" One mechanic at a local bike shop would abuse me every time he saw me when I stopped to kick tires, "Damn you, I know there're no Police bikes in town but I slow down every time I see you on the road."

Oh, I wore a white helmet and a hi-vis too, that also helped motorists confuse me with the Polis. Safest bike riding I ever had, though it didn't stop the boys in blue giving me 11 demerit points by the time I headed home (12 points and you're walking!) The last 3 points I earned, the cop talked for about half an hour about riding ST1100s in the Force before writing the ticket - thought I'd got out of that one, might have if it'd been only a single pointer.

My point right through this thread has been wear what you like, but don't denigrate those who do or don't wear hi-viz. It's a personal thing, lets leave it that way.

[rastuscat]

I rode an white, ex-Police Honda ST1100 in Queensland. Marvellously visible! Cars coming down side roads would dip as the brakes were slammed on, cars would start to ease into my lane and dart quickly back from whence they'd come, "S*#T, that's a Police bike!" One mechanic at a local bike shop would abuse me every time he saw me when I stopped to kick tires, "Damn you, I know there're no Police bikes in town but I slow down every time I see you on the road."

Oh, I wore a white helmet and a hi-vis too, that also helped motorists confuse me with the Polis. Safest bike riding I ever had, though it didn't stop the boys in blue giving me 11 demerit points by the time I headed home (12 points and you're walking!) The last 3 points I earned, the cop talked for about half an hour about riding ST1100s in the Force before writing the ticket - thought I'd got out of that one, might have if it'd been only a single pointer.

My point right through this thread has been wear what you like, but don't denigrate those who do or don't wear hi-viz. It's a personal thing, lets leave it that way.

The only time someone pulled out in front of me when I was on an actual patrol bike was when the driver in question was trying to get himself disqualified.

Fortunately I was able to help him.

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