Low volume vehicle certification

[Mike.Gayner]

Ok, so any aftermarket upgrade item, exhaust, brakes, bodywork, suspension that alters the bike from its original condition requires the bike to be certified by a LLV technician?

Only vehicles that are modified beyond a certain safety threshold need LVV. Frankly it's a bit ridiculous that you think a braking system can be significantly modified, including removal of a pretty major safety system, without the need for certification.

http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/su..._Threshold.pdf

edit: It's also worth noting that the WOF officials aren't being bureaucratic by refusing your WOF - to give you a WOF would be illegal and would threaten their livelihood, so you're being a little unfair. The information was out there before you made these modifications - it's your fault you didn't do your homework.

[Arborist]

The ABS wasn't working and getting replacement parts is near impossiblee, it was lethal as it was, now its safe.

[Mike.Gayner]

The ABS wasn't working and getting replacement parts is near impossiblee, it was lethal as it was, now its safe.

Now it's safe....according to you. The LVV certification is designed to prove that. Such a task is outside the scope of WOF work.

[Arborist]

That link refers to cars, not bikes. There is in fact no guidance notes for bikes, I've checked.

[Arborist]

Yes, according to me, ex engineer, ex mechanic, ex road racer............

[Drew]

Ok, so any aftermarket upgrade item, exhaust, brakes, bodywork, suspension that alters the bike from its original condition requires the bike to be certified by a LLV technician?

Pretty much. 15% power increase was the threshold from memory too. No matter how ya do it.

[Scuba_Steve]

Oh, it gets better, I'm in Queenstown and the nearest certifier is in Dunedin and he needs 2 days to check the bike, take photos, record details of any new part's and charge me a fortune for this, he doesn't have email and he specialises in vintage Chevrolets . This is yet another example of being gouged due to bureaucratic nonsense. Why cant small mods be assessed by the WOF folks and noted on the records! So, its looking like around 700 dollars, 2 days off work, accommodation just for someone to record the changes made before I can go back to VTNZ and get my WOF......... ridiculous!

WoF is there to check vehicle safety extort money for nothing, this is proved doubly so by the existence of LVV Cert... If WoF place can't tell if a vehicle is safe they shouldn't exist!

[AllanB]

The ABS wasn't working and getting replacement parts is near impossiblee, it was lethal as it was, now its safe.

ABS will be mandatory very soon - it is about to be in Europe. Removing it will be a headache.

Try Ebay for parts. What exactly was wrong with the system?


Bikes get away with a shit load of mods in NZ without alarming the WOF people. Lets keep it that way

[Arborist]

I checked all connections, bled all lines and it still didn't work. Its a know problem on these bikes and the recommendation on all Yamaha FJ sites is to remove it and return to standard brakes.

[Mike.Gayner]

If WoF place can't tell if a vehicle is safe they shouldn't exist!

Again, a bit unfair. WOF's check safety on the premise that all vehicles entering the country are certified. So it's easy for a WOF mechanic to say that a vehicle is safe based on the fact that engineers have already tested/examined the design, and as long as it's within ordinary parameters (brakes pads are good, tyres have tread, etc) it can be easily deemed safe. But WOF mechanics are not engineers, or if they are they are not being paid to be engineers in a WOF.

How is a WOF mechanic supposed to tell, visually, if someone's cut up frame is safe? Or totally custom springer front end? Or brakes that are entirely modified with a major safety system removed?

Should they just take OP's word for it? I mean, he's a "ex engineer, ex mechanic, ex road racer" so surely his word is good enough, right?

[BMWST?]

Oh, it gets better, I'm in Queenstown and the nearest certifier is in Dunedin and he needs 2 days to check the bike, take photos, record details of any new part's and charge me a fortune for this, he doesn't have email and he specialises in vintage Chevrolets . This is yet another example of being gouged due to bureaucratic nonsense. Why cant small mods be assessed by the WOF folks and noted on the records! So, its looking like around 700 dollars, 2 days off work, accommodation just for someone to record the changes made before I can go back to VTNZ and get my WOF......... ridiculous!

you say ridiculous.I say,not knowing your background,or the source of the components that you have updated your bike with,sounds fair.Other roads users lives depend on your mods being correct,not to mention your own.

[Arborist]

Should they just take OP's word for it? I mean, he's a "ex engineer, ex mechanic, ex road racer" so surely his word is good enough, right? [/QUOTE]

Ok, hard core biker Gaynor, thanks for your opinion, I really appreciate it........

[awayatc]

Delivery of message may not be of your liking,
But the message itself is fair enough.
Only complaint may be that certification places are to few and far between....

But when you choose to live in parts of south island...I.e Queenstown,
You chose to live in parts unspoiled and far from city life....

This is one of the downsides .....
It's a package deal.

[Moi]

Delivery of message may not be of your liking,
But the message itself is fair enough.
Only complaint may be that certification places are to few and far between....

But when you choose to live in parts of south island...I.e Queenstown,
You chose to live in parts unspoiled and far from city life....

This is one of the downsides .....
It's a package deal.

Must spread more rep...

[nodrog:Me]

how did they know you had modified it?