What I see as a motorcyclist eight years on - A tribute to Kiwi Biker

[george formby]

For some reason the signs that state 20 or 25kph are different. They mean it. If you doubled the speed of the ones on SH43 you'd either be soaring through the air or danglng out of the scenery.

Quite often you notice the holes in the scenery before the sign on such corners. We have quite a few round here with a fresh air run off.

[Moi]

...For some reason the signs that state 20 or 25kph are different. They mean it. If you doubled the speed of the ones on SH43 you'd either be soaring through the air or dangling out of the scenery.

Quite often you notice the holes in the scenery before the sign on such corners. We have quite a few round here with a fresh air run off.

This explains all...

A quick perusal suggests, to me, that the lower the advisory speed the more likely it is to the safe speed for that corner/curve.

But as always, it is entirely up to the driver/rider to make the final call...

[george formby]

This explains all...

A quick perusal suggests, to me, that the lower the advisory speed the more likely it is to the safe speed for that corner/curve.

But as always, it is entirely up to the driver/rider to make the final call...

Preferably not mid corner... Unless you like sparks. Oops, touchdown!

[caspernz]

Don't wanna get hung up on the topic of speed advisory signs, but it's the absence of such a sign on a corner that desperately needs one that baffles me. It also seems the sign is only ever close to the mark when it's originally planted there, subsequent minor changes in curvature/alignment often seem to make the sign wrong.

Number of roads I travel for work have lots of speed advisory signs, some of those corners can comfortably be taken well in excess of the suggested speed. What catches less experienced drivers out is those corners without that magic sign, the radius tightens up or the mid corner bump catches them out, all while travelling below the limit. One section, SH4 from the Eight Mile junction thru to Taumarunui has quite a few corners without advisories, which should by rights have them. No wonder some tourists and weekend warriors struggle once off the motorway...

No substitute for good training and riding/driving within ones' ability.

Good to hear the OP did sensible training though. As for some of the not so mature things done along the way, well, we've all done some funny stuff in our early years haven't we?

[swbarnett]

But if they were only applicable in adverse conditions it would say that on the sign. There is no such thing as a bad vehicle for NZ roads as long as it has a warrant otherwise the recomended speed sign would have a list of vehicles that it appies to . My thinking for them being put there is as a result of numerous crashes on those bends in any weather and by any vehicle/motorcycle. Those that believe differently do so at their peril in my opinion.

I know from personal experience that any given corner can be taken quite safely at well above the posted recommendation - given a well maintained vehicle and good road conditions.

These speed recommendations were originally set by a car with a ball in the back window on a vertically curved track. The highest speed at which the ball stayed in the middle is what went on the sign. This is a very sedate pace indeed for most corners.

Personally I prefer the Swiss system - NO recommended speed signs whatsoever. Over there you're expected to be able to think for yourself.

[swbarnett]

I thought they were minimum speed.

That works too...

[Maha]

I thought they were minimum speed.

I almost had to use the indicators on a posted 25 km corner it was that tight. Actually to be honest I was luckY that there was nothing coming the other because I needed a tad more than my lane....yeah a bit quick into the corner and lesson learned.

[george formby]

I almost had to use the indicators on a posted 25 km corner it was that tight. Actually to be honest I was luckY that there was nothing coming the other because I needed a tad more than my lane....yeah a bit quick into the corner and lesson learned.

There are two corners up here which still catch me out. I can never quite remember where they are in the sequence of things. Having been in the same situation with eyeballs pressed against the visor thinking "Where the fuck has the road gone.." I manage to stay safely in lane but usually something ends up scraping. One is signposted 25kmh, possibly optimistically, the other is unmarked.
I love em!

[Maha]

There are two corners up here which still catch me out. I can never quite remember where they are in the sequence of things. Having been in the same situation with eyeballs pressed against the visor thinking "Where the fuck has the road gone.." I manage to stay safely in lane but usually something ends up scraping. One is signposted 25kmh, possibly optimistically, the other is unmarked.
I love em!

The one I almost over shot was on the Coromandel , when you see a posted recommended speed limit to safely take a corner, most will have their interpretation of what that sign means to them. It's unusual to see 25km corner (not in the South Island I understand) and the mind doesn't quite register it as that when you see one, until you're right on it.

[EJK]

The one I almost over shot was on the Coromandel , when you see a posted recommended speed limit to safely take a corner, most will have their interpretation of what that sign means to them. It's unusual to see 25km corner (not in the South Island I understand) and the mind doesn't quite register it as that when you see one, until you're right on it.

I know what you are saying. There are also a couple of corners down here on the way to Queenstown too which are marked 55 and the other 35 respectively. Sir Issac Newton wont give a flying F if you are driving in a Lamborghini or bestest handlingest Ferrari. When that corner says 35, it really means slow right down.

[James Deuce]

Gidday guys and gals,

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Churr!

STEVEN

!

I've had you on ignore for years after you said some Cunty McCuntface shit about my last near fatal accident.

Maybe you aren't a cunt after all.

[nzspokes]

There would be some on here that would take your comment as a challenge that they can prove you wrong and one poster has already made a claim that all bends that hes taken can be done far above the limit. To be fair though he may never have gone around one as tight as 20-30km.

Its double plus 10. Pussy.

[Big Dog]

But by taking notice of the signs it makes you more prepared to notice the hazards you state and have time to hopefully avoid than those who do not take notice. I posted on here yesterday a story someone on here posted about taking a 80k bend at 95 and coming to grief on gravel. By taking notice of the sign they may have had time to avoid it. Their reply to me was it would not have made any diffference or I was wrong in my thinking but with their way of thinking they are bound to come to grief the same way again and may not live to talk about it either. There was an article in an AA magazine a few years ago that said the biggest killers in single motorcycle crashes are bends.

I think you will find the biggest killer by number of motorcyclists involved in single vehicle accidents is motorcyclists.

They are certainly the only ingredient that is universally present.


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[EJK]

There would be some on here that would take your comment as a challenge that they can prove you wrong and one poster has already made a claim that all bends that hes taken can be done far above the limit. To be fair though he may never have gone around one as tight as 20-30km.

Please. Would love to see his Ferrari or Lamborghini

[Jin]

I usually aim for double. Low speed ones are easy is the higher speed ones i usually take a bit of care eg of it says 75 I'll do 120 or so.