HOG Central Districts chapter membership?

[PistonBlown]

Sadly it looks like the 'Spyders' BRP are trying to go the way of HD.
I hear they got an influx of ex HD management, and are going down the 'destination dealer' route; single brand, or {required number of units on display}, gear, bling parts yada yada. The bike shops that took them up in the beginning are being 'muscled out'. My ex has ridden one since 2011 and she is quite 'annoyed' that now the nearest dealer is in Palmy North. Considering she got her first one from TSS in 2011.
I actually enjoy riding the RS and will certainly buy another when this one is 'high mileage'. The idiot attitude towards them from some is a bit sad, for many who were involved in accidents, or gotten to 'old' to hold up big bikes like goldwings, the spyder range allows them to 'ride' still.
and nothing wrong with the old Jawa's, quite a few of us used the 350's as winter bikes in the UK, tough, rugged and simple.

Jawa was supposed to be a temporary hack while I rebuilt my Enfield. The Enfield had been 'written off' when a BT van jumped a stop sign and T'd me (didn't do me a lot of good either:-)). It took quite a while to get the Enfield sorted and when I finally did some munter stole it a few weeks later. So the Java became more permanent than I planned. Admittedly it was pretty ratty but for some reason it seemed to attract lots of comments. The ones from my 'mates' I kind of expected but complete strangers was surprising. Probably didn't help that the auto-mix was broken so I used just pour a bit of two stroke oil into the petrol tank each fill-up, result was smoky sometimes - but hey, everyone loves the smell of Castrol 2-stroke:-)

I've noticed BRP have dropped the RS from the NZ web site - only one I'd consider riding out of the current line-up is an RS so I hope this isn't a sign they are going to drop it. I've been patently waiting for them to bring out an RSS with a sports mode. The stock riding position of the RS is perfect for me and I like the higher rev'ing engine, just want it to be a bit quicker. I know the 3 cylinder has more low down power but it's slower overall - and the seat on the F3 is too low for me.

[GrayWolf]

Jawa was supposed to be a temporary hack while I rebuilt my Enfield. The Enfield had been 'written off' when a BT van jumped a stop sign and T'd me (didn't do me a lot of good either:-)). It took quite a while to get the Enfield sorted and when I finally did some munter stole it a few weeks later. So the Java became more permanent than I planned. Admittedly it was pretty ratty but for some reason it seemed to attract lots of comments. The ones from my 'mates' I kind of expected but complete strangers was surprising. Probably didn't help that the auto-mix was broken so I used just pour a bit of two stroke oil into the petrol tank each fill-up, result was smoky sometimes - but hey, everyone loves the smell of Castrol 2-stroke:-)

I've noticed BRP have dropped the RS from the NZ web site - only one I'd consider riding out of the current line-up is an RS so I hope this isn't a sign they are going to drop it. I've been patently waiting for them to bring out an RSS with a sports mode. The stock riding position of the RS is perfect for me and I like the higher rev'ing engine, just want it to be a bit quicker. I know the 3 cylinder has more low down power but it's slower overall - and the seat on the F3 is too low for me.

Errrrrr which 3cyl model are you 'referring to' as slower overall?
The RSS IS the 'sports' bike with the upgraded suspension and brembo's. The RSS SE5 which I have, is supposed to be slightly 'de-tuned' {only 100bhp from what I was told, due to it hammering the auto change in full power version} .
The F3 is quicker than a RSS for def, and has supposedly had the 'nana' relaxed for less intervention cornering. The ex has a new RTs 1300 and we've both chopped and changed {she's done 60k+ on them} and you can ride the RS hard, and that bloody 'orange' thing of her's is right on your ass!
So dont know where you've got that the 3cyl is slower overall,, it has higher BHP and torque than the twin, and the F3 is a lot lighter than an RT.

[PistonBlown]

Errrrrr which 3cyl model are you 'referring to' as slower overall?
The RSS IS the 'sports' bike with the upgraded suspension and brembo's. The RSS SE5 which I have, is supposed to be slightly 'de-tuned' {only 100bhp from what I was told, due to it hammering the auto change in full power version} .
The F3 is quicker than a RSS for def, and has supposedly had the 'nana' relaxed for less intervention cornering. The ex has a new RTs 1300 and we've both chopped and changed {she's done 60k+ on them} and you can ride the RS hard, and that bloody 'orange' thing of her's is right on your ass!
So dont know where you've got that the 3cyl is slower overall,, it has higher BHP and torque than the twin, and the F3 is a lot lighter than an RT.

Now firstly remember the RS's were faster pre-2013, the new ones have a softer tune. Officially the F3 is 0.3 seconds slower 0-60mph than a pre-2013 RS. So though the BHP and torque are slightly higher on the F3 strangely this doesn't equate to a faster bike over all - not quite sure how BRP managed that, particularly as the F3 is a bit lighter as well:-)

• RS Pre-2013 (like mine) 106bhp @ 8,500rpm, 104.3Nm @ 6250rpm. 0-60mph 4.5 seconds
• RS/ST 2013... 100bhp 74.5kw @ 7,500rpm, 108Nm @ 5000rpm.
• F3 115bhp @ 7,250rpm, 130Mn @ 5000rpm. 0-60mph 4.8 seconds

Don't have an official figure for a post 2013 RS/ST but 4.6 seconds was the figure BRP claimed when they were released.

Part of the problem is I think where the 3 cylinder delivers it's power lower down the rev-range. Everyone used to complain about the fuel efficiency of the 998 V-twin, so with the 1330 3-cylinder they have aimed at fuel efficiency (which has been greatly improved).

Completely unscientifically when I took one for a test ride I was a bit underwhelmed by it which was quite disappointing. Mind you the position of the seat's too low for me as well which didn't help.