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    New Government tomorrow????

    Results of 200,000-odd special votes are probably gunna be known tomorrow.
    Seems to be a lot of different possible outcomes.

    Here's my bet: the special votes will closely mirror the votes already counted on election day, so we will still have a Labour Government BUT it will likely collapse within a short period and we will have a new election ion 2006. The reasons: Maori party is needed to give Labour workable numbers but the divide between them is too deep (e.g. Foreshore and Seabed) and you have hotheads like Harawira. Also Philip Field could well be out on his arse, forcing a by-election...


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    I say we shoot all the politicians and start our own KB Party
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    hrmm?

    narh.

    greens will get another seat out of the write-in potheads, labour will get a guaranteed abstention from NZF and we'll have the pinko minority gummint of the maniacally-frothing left that we've all been dreaming about.

    winston won't go back on his word after agreeing not to scupper confidence motions, because he knows that any move of that sort would likely erode his now-all-important party vote below the threshold next time round as voters respond with more than the usual level of disgust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Postie
    start our own KB Party
    yeah but every time we do that everyone ends up pissed and doing burnouts in the driveway, and the only private members bills involved tend to be of the sort unsuitable for family viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fish
    private members unsuitable for family viewing.

    Indubitably
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fish
    *snip* the only private members bills involved tend to be of the sort unsuitable for family viewing.
    Oh the hilarity of a KB party in gubbermint...

    There have been some 'interesting' pieces of legislation concerning particular members in the last term - the 'Harry Dynhoven' (sp??) bill and subsequent enactment for one...

    Imagine the legislation considered in the house by a KB led parliament...

    *Phurrball muses, staring into space, then sees the time and buggers off to an Equity tutorial...*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fish
    greens will get another seat out of the write-in potheads, labour will get a guaranteed abstention from NZF and we'll have the pinko minority gummint of the maniacally-frothing left that we've all been dreaming about.

    I both admire and fear you, Fish.....
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    We need a re-election

    Take power from the masses and give it to the few

    Give SOMEONE a clear mandate to lead and have them run the place with a simple majority

    *ding* NEXT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder
    Take power from the masses and give it to the few

    Give SOMEONE a clear mandate to lead and have them run the place with a simple majority

    *ding* NEXT!

    ME!

    Give the People's Proletarian Democratic Liberation party (party platform: " Free bikes for all" ) a mandate and just watch us run the place. (Memo to self : First thing to do : get rid of that silly majority stuff)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerryg
    Results of 200,000-odd special votes are probably gunna be known tomorrow.
    Seems to be a lot of different possible outcomes.

    Here's my bet: the special votes will closely mirror the votes already counted on election day, so we will still have a Labour Government BUT it will likely collapse within a short period and we will have a new election ion 2006. The reasons: Maori party is needed to give Labour workable numbers but the divide between them is too deep (e.g. Foreshore and Seabed) and you have hotheads like Harawira. Also Philip Field could well be out on his arse, forcing a by-election...


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    Labour will hold their majority....Don ''trust me,I know what I'm doing'' Brash will pack up his toys and go away because he didn't get it all his own way.....the Labour coalition will colapse and National will go in on the re election,but are inexperiance and left holding the bag on a world economy downturn - Labour are back in for the next election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder
    Give SOMEONE a clear mandate to lead
    why?

    what's so great about that idea?

    the business of government is to encourage stability, not to implement good ideas. good ideas always have unforeseen ramifications. unilateral mandates lead to things being done before the fullness of time. when the time is not ripe. and often, funnily enough, in the interests of minority pressure groups.

    you may perceive our proportional representation system as a limp-wristed shackle on the energetic limb of governance, but it is more accurate to see it as an effective dampener for the schizophrenic twitching of an uncoordinated and gangrenous appendage.

    the less the politicians manage to do, the better. almost anything they think of is bound to destabilise and bugger up SOMETHING.

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    BDOTGNZA hereby concedes its chances of either governing or holding the balance of power after the special votes are counted. From henceforth its political ambitions will be better served by Fish's Groaning Metaphor and Worn Cliche Party. Vote for change. Give your part vote to GMWC!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder
    Take power from the masses and give it to the few

    Give SOMEONE a clear mandate to lead and have them run the place with a simple majority

    *ding* NEXT!
    FYI should you not have seen it already: David Slack's numbers WRT percentages of vote required to govern in previous NZ elections.

    The only difference now is proportional representation...my the fun it makes...
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    Has anyone noticed that the country seems to run better when no-one is in govt ?
    The contents of this post are my opinion and may not be subjected to any form of reality
    It means I'm not an authority or a teacher, and may not have any experience so take things with a pinch of salt (a.k.a bullshit) rather than fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fish
    ... the business of government is to encourage stability, not to implement good ideas. good ideas always have unforeseen ramifications. unilateral mandates lead to things being done before the fullness of time. when the time is not ripe. and often, funnily enough, in the interests of minority pressure groups... the less the politicians manage to do, the better. almost anything they think of is bound to destabilise and bugger up SOMETHING.
    Bugger me Fish, what an intelligent and sensible post.

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