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    Speed Camera's go covert

    from www.stuff.co.nz

    Speed cameras will be operating without warning, and in places motorists least expect them, by Easter.

    Police plan to do away with speed camera areas and signs during the next two months and, by April, will start randomly targeting areas, including residential streets, where motorists least expect it, national road safety manager Superintendent Steve Fitzgerald has confirmed. (Gee - this is worthwhile)
    At present, speed cameras operate only in designated, signposted areas.

    Police managers will meet next month to discuss and finalise the aims and goals of the "anywhere, any time" tactic announced by Police Minister George Hawkins and Transport Minister Paul Swain just before Christmas.

    It will be the first of a raft of road safety measures that will also introduce the immediate 28-day loss of licence for drivers going 40km/h or more over the speed limit or caught drink-driving twice in four years, and the immediate 28-day seizure of vehicles for three or more drink-driving offences.

    There will be a new physical assessment for drivers suspected of taking drugs.

    Legislation for these other changes is to be introduced this year.

    Mr Fitzgerald said under the "anywhere, any time" tactic, police would set up mobile cameras where a need was identified. This could include normally quiet, residential streets. (so if some old lady complains about you hooning home - be warned!!)

    Drivers could no longer learn where speed cameras operated and slow down only when they passed through those areas, he said.

    The Government has denied that the tactic is intended to boost revenue (RUBBISH). It probably does not need to do so – in the past five financial years the Government has netted more than $163 million in fines, and latest figures suggest that some people are slow learners when it comes to speeding.

    More than 40 motorists every day are still speeding past the country's most productive camera on State Highway 1 in the Ngauranga Gorge. It snapped 16,056 motorists during the year to November 31, and 11,584 of them were fined. (that is because it turns to 80kph on a downhill section with a 'Steep Gradient' warning after a 100kph limit - go figure)

    The camera would have brought in at least $926,000 – about $2500 a day.

    But it is an improvement on figures released in September showing the camera had snapped almost 25,000 motorists in the year to July 31.

    Wellington road policing manager Inspector Allan Boreham said he was not surprised the numbers were so high, given traffic volumes.

    "The offending rate as a per centage of motorists is consistent with other sites," he said.

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    bugger. but at least we can only get pinged one way & if we buy a flip up plate holder we'll get pinged even less. as for cars well they're the ones killing everyone so i don't care. oh and it is definitely about the money, it's just plain insulting to be told otherwise by a public servant.

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    And BTW how many motorcyclists over the busy holiday period killed themselves through excessive speed?

    Now let's see how we can reduce the drowning toll...

    A restricted swimming licence for a start.
    Instant fines for getting out of your depth.
    Covert cameras at beaches with $170 fines for not swimming between the flags...

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    Speed cameras are just revenue gathering when on the open road, in built up areas and around schools, etc, don't have an issue.

    Now how come the most publicised speed camera (Ngauranga Gorge) still catches 2500 people per day. Some people must be really thick or have a lot of money. I know the camera is there and apply the brakes as I come up to the camera. The signs are big enough as well.

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    Seriously now, you have to be pretty dumb or asleep to get pinged by a camera. Don't you?
    There was a good editorial in 'Two Wheels'. One comment was to the effect that senior civil servents on fixed contracts will not upset Govt revenue streams by pointing out that current Police tactics are failing. They want to keep their jobs.
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    Saw my 1st van speed camera today somewhere in between Whangarei & Kawakawa. A few cages were nice enough to warn me, could see the fool for miles away though.

    Will suck to not know where they are anymore, but where I live/ride they are never there anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangell6
    Speed cameras are just revenue gathering when on the open road, in built up areas and around schools, etc, don't have an issue.

    Now how come the most publicised speed camera (Ngauranga Gorge) still catches 2500 people per day. Some people must be really thick or have a lot of money. I know the camera is there and apply the brakes as I come up to the camera. The signs are big enough as well.

    Mike
    No - refer my original post - it collect $2500 in revenue per day. 2500 people per day would mean 1mio motorists would be caught in a year....

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    Oops

    Still pretty dumb though to get a ticket.

    Apparently on the Desert Road on Saturday the red vans were out. Those red vans stick out like dogs balls on a highway, people must like their picture taken.

    Lou, public servants must do what there masters want, and the current batch of masters do not want to hear anything 'contrary' to their policies.

    Mike

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    Lou, public servants must do what there masters want, and the current batch of masters do not want to hear anything 'contrary' to their policies.
    Do any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mangell6
    Oops

    Still pretty dumb though to get a ticket.

    Apparently on the Desert Road on Saturday the red vans were out. Those red vans stick out like dogs balls on a highway, people must like their picture taken.

    Lou, public servants must do what there masters want, and the current batch of masters do not want to hear anything 'contrary' to their policies.

    Mike
    It is not like the fecken camera in the gorge moves!

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    I remember some dialogue in Australia a year or so back talking about putting front rego plates on bikes, coz speed cameras can't ping bikes head-on. The PC (politically correct) brigade thought this was an unfair advantage for bikes c.f. other road users... Now wouldn't that look good on the front of your Ducati or Aprilia??
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL
    And BTW how many motorcyclists over the busy holiday period killed themselves through excessive speed?

    Now let's see how we can reduce the drowning toll...

    A restricted swimming licence for a start.
    Instant fines for getting out of your depth.
    Covert cameras at beaches with $170 fines for not swimming between the flags...
    Hey Mike I belive that in the states you can be fined for not swiming inside the flags.Scary aye. :disapint:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL
    And BTW how many motorcyclists over the busy holiday period killed themselves through excessive speed?

    Now let's see how we can reduce the drowning toll...

    A restricted swimming licence for a start.
    Instant fines for getting out of your depth.
    Covert cameras at beaches with $170 fines for not swimming between the flags...
    Now where do I apply for THAT job?... Sitting on the beach all day... covert pictures...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher
    I remember some dialogue in Australia a year or so back talking about putting front rego plates on bikes, coz speed cameras can't ping bikes head-on. The PC (politically correct) brigade thought this was an unfair advantage for bikes c.f. other road users... Now wouldn't that look good on the front of your Ducati or Aprilia??
    Interesting that one, because they were withdrawn on safety grounds - slicing and dicing pedestrians was the problem I believe. Would do wonders for steering in a heavy crosswind.

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