Yellow Schmellow

[eldog]

We I see double yellow lines, usually means that the area/road conditions are bad for both directions, so extra care should be taken as the usual road trash will often appear overtaking just to make travelling that much more of the in ya face experience.

[MarkH]

A bike pulled out over 'dual yellow' lines to pass a car towing a caravan, under normal circumstances you can get around such an obstacle in 3-4 seconds? Rider had re-calculate that time quicker than he could say ''fuck what was I thinking'' when he saw us about to happen upon his immediate area.

Did he perceive it safe to pass? he must have... but he was wrong.

What I didn't say because it is so obvious: . . . and if you don't perceive correctly then no, it isn't OK.

What you need to consider before crossing the lines painted to let you know you shouldn't cross them is whether your judgement is better than the person that decided the solid line should be there. Can you pull out and get passed that car and back into your lane safely even if a car suddenly appears from around that corner up ahead? Do you know there is no dip in the road ahead?

If you are riding on an unfamiliar road then maybe you should err on the side of caution . . . just sayin'.

[Berries]

What you need to consider before crossing the lines painted to let you know you shouldn't cross them is whether your judgement is better than the person that decided the solid line should be there.

That used to be the case but now TPTB are erring so far on the side of caution that they are removing what are 'safe' overtaking opportunities if you have your wits about you, ie keeping back and being able to see a clear road as soon as it comes in to view rather than being stuck up the chuff of the vehicle in front and then thinking about an overtake when you have missed the chance. Many km of new yellow lines have been painted down here in the last 12 months, not only blanket wide on passing lanes but also filling in some of the gaps. Kind of like stop signs, they used to mean something when they were put in according to the correct procedures but now they are chucked up left, right and centre to appease anyone who is vocal enough. This can only lead to a lack of compliance, as evidenced in this thread, and if enough of it occurs you know that rigid enforcement will come next.

Personally I think motorbike riders should be exempt from dodgy stop signs when we can see the way is clear due to our height above the road and also be exempt from passing over solid yellow lines because we can do it so quickly - if we are exempt from the open road speed limit. Oddly enough my MP never replies to those letters.

[george formby]

That used to be the case but now TPTB are erring so far on the side of caution that they are removing what are 'safe' overtaking opportunities if you have your wits about you, ie keeping back and being able to see a clear road as soon as it comes in to view rather than being stuck up the chuff of the vehicle in front and then thinking about an overtake when you have missed the chance. Many km of new yellow lines have been painted down here in the last 12 months, not only blanket wide on passing lanes but also filling in some of the gaps. Kind of like stop signs, they used to mean something when they were put in according to the correct procedures but now they are chucked up left, right and centre to appease anyone who is vocal enough. This can only lead to a lack of compliance, as evidenced in this thread, and if enough of it occurs you know that rigid enforcement will come next.

Personally I think motorbike riders should be exempt from dodgy stop signs when we can see the way is clear due to our height above the road and also be exempt from passing over solid yellow lines because we can do it so quickly - if we are exempt from the open road speed limit. Oddly enough my MP never replies to those letters.

Yeah, I agree. Lowering speed limits on perfectly good, if twisty, roads and slapping yellow paint around the place does not change driving habits and potentially, could make them worse if the message is disregarded due to familiarity.

I consider road signs and the lines on the road to be an indicator of conditions and hazards, all there for a good reason. Bloody clever, too, if you know how to use them. Chucking paint around to make sections of road appear more hazardous than necessary will probably go the way of hi viz (somebody had to bring it up), unseen or ignored.

[Akzle]

Personally I think motorbike riders should be exempt from dodgy stop signs when we can see the way is clear due to our height above the road and also be exempt from passing over solid yellow lines because we can do it so quickly - if we are exempt from the open road speed limit. Oddly enough my MP never replies to those letters.

vote akzle

[Banditbandit]

Oddly enough my MP never replies to those letters.

Do you expect MPs to be literate?

[Swoop]

The expression double-yellow-line is often misused.

I personally believe it's a carry over from the UK, where it is a common expression.


I'm recently back from there and noticed they have a single yellow line along the kerb. There is also the double yellow along the kerb too, which simply means "no parking".
When asking a local "why does the single yellow line exist then?" (because everyone parks on THAT line) the question couldn't be answered.

[neels]

When asking a local "why does the single yellow line exist then?" (because everyone parks on THAT line) the question couldn't be answered.

So you can see where the edge of the road is in the fog?

[Berries]

Do you expect MPs to be literate?

To be honest I would not waste the stamp.

I personally believe it's a carry over from the UK, where it is a common expression.

I'm recently back from there and noticed they have a single yellow line along the kerb. There is also the double yellow along the kerb too, which simply means "no parking".
When asking a local "why does the single yellow line exist then?" (because everyone parks on THAT line) the question couldn't be answered.

Double yellow = no parking at any time
Single yellow = no parking at certain times, used to be standardised as between 8am and 6pm but now they put signs up with the hours on.

[Racing Dave]

To be honest I would not waste the stamp.

Lucky for you, then, that letters sent to MPs at Parliament do not require a stamp.

[Swoop]

Double yellow = no parking at any time
Single yellow = no parking at certain times, used to be standardised as between 8am and 6pm but now they put signs up with the hours on.

Didn't see any signs, so was a bit perplexed over it, as were the locals!