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    Quote Originally Posted by gamgee
    heres the zxr250 dyno, and if it's 5hp more than a vt250f that makes the vt250f pretty close to 40hp
    http://www.rooracing.com/Zxr250.jpg
    I said its a ZX2R not a ZXR250, there is a difference. ZX2R is a parallel twin and the ZXR250 is a inline 4. The VT250 probably makes the most torque out of the lot (being a vtwin) but makes the least power. You'll never convince me that a vt250 has much over 30hp let alone 40hp. Its just a fact of life. Hell the nsr250's only came with about 50hp out of the factory and thats a 2 stroke. A 4 stroke is lucky to make half the power of a 2 stroke at the same capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14
    I said its a ZX2R not a ZXR250, there is a difference.
    well it's the same bike in both photos...

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    anyway enough of arguing over the finer details of the vt250f, basically it comes down to: twins are way cooler than singles and fours (or threes and sixes for those that like to be really different)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamgee
    anyway enough of arguing over the finer details of the vt250f, basically it comes down to: twins are way cooler than singles and fours (or threes and sixes for those that like to be really different)
    Amen (10 chars)
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    I think all you fella's should stop pissing around with girlie 250's and buy my CBR600F (105hp according to the Honda brochure )
    specs VT250FE 35hp

    AS for this info....who the hell calls their bike David????

    * Bike: Honda VT250F
    * Name: David
    * Year Of Bike: 1988
    * Miles: 20 000
    * Rating: 9
    * Date: Tuesday, October 08, 2002

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    sleeps untill 7000 rpm,then theres about 40-45 hp on the back wheel,and can rev to 14 ,500 very grunty and zippy when its cold ,its a little rattly,but when its warm it purrs like a pussy does 120 mph (200 km/hr)
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    awesome!!!i can keep up with a FZR400 or a CBR250RR and race against the boyracers and kick their ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamgee
    what proof do you have, as all i'm seeing over and over from all these different websites is 40+hp
    Your own link ( http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~et7t-tum...0fe-spece.html ) says 40ps. ps is a little less than horsepower.

    Weird shit happened when the '98 VTR250 was born. They moved max torque down, and lost horsepower..

    http://translate.google.com/translat...100/index.html See 'principal statistics' .

    I do know a VT(R)250 that does 210kph however.. MINE!!

    http://www.cdd.co.nz/sprint/EastWest...ltsSep2005.htm

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    They didn't calculate that correctly...
    Last edited by limbimtimwim; 10th October 2005 at 22:50. Reason: duh typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by gav
    AS for this info....who the hell calls their bike David????
    That is weird
    i can keep up with a FZR400 or a CBR250RR and race against the boyracers and kick their ass
    This person is obviously a few slices short of a sandwich. And they called their bike Dave. Would depend on that CBR/FZR rider. I mean, I passed a GSXR1100 going up the 'takas last week. That doesn't mean I can keep I can keep up with Velox on her 250 Jade.. Hell. No.

    David... Why don't I just call mine 'Matthew' or something? Hmm.. I think I'm going to pop off to the shed to clean Matthew. Have a sit on Matthew. Paint Matthew bright red and pretend it's a Ducati Monster S4...

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    210km/h out of a VT or VTR ?????

    hmmm,...I had an FE model (the half-faired twin piper) and I got an indicated 175km/h on a long straight after a bit of effort.
    I've got the FG up to 160 but I don't think there's a lot left, prob get the same top speed,..but wouldn't be able to get anywhere near 200...it ain't an NSR !!


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    Those time trial results are cocked up big time, that 1998 VTR250 that shows as 210km/h, you've changed that or what? Look at the times you've recorded
    "11.33, 10.47, 11.64" I guess this is seconds to do a flying 1/4 mile? Well check out the CBR400RR below yours, he's in the 7 second bracket but his speed is shown as 197.6 km/h!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gav
    Those time trial results are cocked up big time, that 1998 VTR250 that shows as 210km/h, you've changed that or what? Look at the times you've recorded
    "11.33, 10.47, 11.64" I guess this is seconds to do a flying 1/4 mile? Well check out the CBR400RR below yours, he's in the 7 second bracket but his speed is shown as 197.6 km/h!
    I know!! I was being silly :-)

    I calulated it here

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...&postcount=146

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14
    I said its a ZX2R not a ZXR250, there is a difference. ZX2R is a parallel twin and the ZXR250 is a inline 4. The VT250 probably makes the most torque out of the lot (being a vtwin) but makes the least power. You'll never convince me that a vt250 has much over 30hp let alone 40hp. Its just a fact of life. Hell the nsr250's only came with about 50hp out of the factory and thats a 2 stroke. A 4 stroke is lucky to make half the power of a 2 stroke at the same capacity.
    They actually only made 45hp. Japan restricts bikes to a certain hp rating depending on size and classification. Thus the NSR makes the same amount of power as a cbr from the factory.

    Before you all start throwing things at me this is only in Japan not anywhere else. Everywhere else they deristrict so up with the power.

    I'll find the old manufactuers annual and see if I can find the power rating to end this once and for all.

    What could have been done is that the bikes could have run on a car dyno (It can be done). This means that a different formula has been used by the computer to give corrected figures.

    Corrected means that the calculated loss of the drive train has been added to the back wheel power. If it was run on a car dyno the wrong loss will have been added as cars lose anything from 30% to 60% through their drive trains.

    Hopefully I'll find that book. Whats the bike in question that has "40hp".
    The "Big Balled Midget" - Cheers CLS

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    if you could post the 3 main vt types that would be awesome:
    vt250
    vtr250
    vt250f (which has subtypes such as e and g)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamgee
    if you could post the 3 main vt types that would be awesome:
    vt250
    vtr250
    vt250f (which has subtypes such as e and g)
    Well from what I've read about VT250's (I'm on my 2nd one) this is what I believe.
    (hp rated at the crank BTW)

    VT250FD (1983-84) - 35hp
    VT250FE,FF,F2 (1985-86 twin piper) - 40hp
    VT250FG, VTR250 Interceptor (1986-1989) - 42hp

    VT250 Spada (1989) - 34hp (was derated)

    VTR250 (199? - current) - 32 hp (latest model may have a bit more)

    Now before you all get stuck into me and tell me to pull my head in, this is the CRANK-RATING not back wheel and also this is from research off the net.


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