Lane splitting surprise.

[Akzle]

1) opening a door so as to cause a hazard to traffic is illegal as fuck.

2) if your "boot isn't closed properly" it's probably able to be classed as an insecure load. also illegal as fuck.

somebody should do something!

[Akzle]

I have had a door opened on me, ( yes it was on purpose) I stopped in time but while fuckwit had his door open I rode forward into it ( yes on purpose) ( what a c@@t am I ) and bent his door forward on the hinges, needles to say he couldn't close it then I moved back a bit and continued on my way,

you could have kept the pace up and probably landed the front wheel on the cunt's nuts...

[Luckylegs]

1)...somebody should do something!

VOTE AKZLE! right?

[Akzle]

VOTE AKZLE! right?

rbgiafp

... now y'all getting it.


(but really, all i'd do, is enable the stasi to do their fucking job in enforcing policy, rather than collecting for the slush-fund.)

[pritch]

Could it be, not so much the act that pisses car drivers off, but the speed and subsequent carelessness (in the drivers mind) in which some carry out this biker only advantage. Because lets face it, a lane splitting bike is probably passed a car before the driver even registers it has happened possibly giving the stationary car driver cause for comment.

Nah. You're giving the twats too much credit. They just hate to see somebody doing better than them. They're stuck and you aren't? Instant hate.

[FJRider]

It'd be good to have some clear laws around it so that people know for sure.
I think in most cases, people tend to think it's illegal.

If you don't know the rules ... be wary if you try to play the game ...

https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/roadc...r-moving-traf/

Lane splitting or filtering

While you might see other riders lane splitting or 'filtering' this is not a technique that you should use until you are experienced. Lane splitting is where you can ride between vehicles that are moving slowly or are stationary.

A motorcycle may overtake a vehicle on the right within the same lane if it is safe to do so. The traffic must be stationary or slow-moving and the way ahead must be clear. A motorcycle may overtake a vehicle on the left only if that vehicle is stationary or if it is turning right. It must not overtake on the left if the vehicle is turning left.

Therefore when traffic is stationary at the lights you can lane split on either side; if traffic is moving slowly on the motorway then you must only lane split to the right of a lane. Stick within 20kph or so of the speed of the other traffic otherwise you will likely be stopped and charged with careless driving or dangerous driving, both which carry a substantial fine.

You must not ride down the extreme right of the motorway outside the line. Also you must not ride in the hard shoulder unless it's a transit lane.

Remember that as a motorcyclist you can use bus lanes where indicated, and these are likely to be safer than lane splitting because there will be a bigger margin.

Be careful when filtering through traffic that is stationary at traffic lights because pedestrians could be walking between cars.

[sopachrga]

Yes I know those rules by heart!
I was meaning more so car drivers knew that lane splitting was legal to start with. Then worry about the details later.

You ask most car drivers they will say it's illegal as you don't have 100M of clear road throughout the overtaking manoeuvre. (Despite that being an incorrect interpretation of the rules)

[Moi]

... I was meaning more so car drivers knew that lane splitting was legal to start with. Then worry about the details later...

If many drivers have difficulty with



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How do you expect them to cope with?

[nzspokes]

So for him to comment he must be a mate?

[sopachrga]

Sort of... a Facebook "friend" not a real friend. I'm in a band so get lots of randoms adding me on Facebook. I usually just accept them.
He has since been blocked.

[nzspokes]

Sort of... a Facebook "friend" not a real friend. I'm in a band so get lots of randoms adding me on Facebook. I usually just accept them.
He has since been blocked.

I would have kept him as a friend and trolled the shit out of him.

[mossy1200]

Could it be, not so much the act that pisses car drivers off, but the speed and subsequent carelessness (in the drivers mind) in which some carry out this biker only advantage. Because lets face it, a lane splitting bike is probably passed a car before the driver even registers it has happened possibly giving the stationary car driver cause for comment.

+1

Moderation is the key. Watching people split at speed past cars that are already travelling at more than a crawl looks dangerous and often scares people who are unaware your coming. If I see a gap in one of the lanes ahead I assume someone will change lanes into it without indicating and its the lane changer that gets you hurt. We all know riding is risky but sometimes a little common sense increases or chances of survival.

Bus or transit lanes on the left is a big danger when someone not in that lane wants to turn or park and has not seen you because they look quickly for a bus and you have not been spotted.

99.9% of wellington traffic will even give you room to go through. There is always going to a couple that wont or even try prevent you. Watch out for them. You also need calculate the human era and drivers that are not paying any attention(auto pilots and phone zombies). Even if your not in the wrong your still going to get hurt.

Saying that idd be TEMPTED to slow impact that f@#%s door off its hinge limit with 400kg of M109r. Disclaimer ---- "Not intentionally if that actually happened".

[Swoop]

It'd be good to have some clear laws around it so that people know for sure.

The rule is simple. "Deliberate blocking" by tin top = their mirror dangling by wires or sitting on the tarmac.
Top Tip: BMW drivers don't like this and will chase you... (an excellent bit of fun, I might add).

[Dogboy900]

I have heard a lot of people say they would do this, or even one guy claim that a mate of his does it and knocks motorcyclists off "all the time". When I point out that a 200+ Kg motorcycle is going to right royally fuck your door even if it is moving slowly the story usually changes.

People are full of shit most of the time.

Of course I do encounter people moving over to close up the gap when I am filtering almost every time I ride. If you keep an eye out it is not that big a deal, and most overestimate the size of their car and leave enough room to get past anyway, or the person in the lane next to them wonders what the hell they are doing so move over and open the gap.

It is surprising how many non riders do dislike the idea though. I try to be sensible when filtering, keep the speed down, and always acknowledge anybody that moves over to give me a little more room.

[FJRider]

Saying that idd be TEMPTED to slow impact that f@#%s door off its hinge limit with 400kg of M109r. Disclaimer ---- "Not intentionally if that actually happened".

Back in the '80's ... a guy tried that on me on the Hutt motorway near Lower Hutt. He was still rolling about 20 km/hr ... and I was passing about 30 km/hr. He had a stiff southerly behind him as he was heading to Upper Hutt. The wind did some damage as the wind pulled the door out of his hand. But the Suzuki GS1000 flattened the door against his front mudguard. No damage to the bike.

I bet he never tried it again.