Cheeky speeding motorcyclist in Queenstown?

[R650R]

Hopefully the original rider cropped or edited the image and it will be inadmissible as evidence in court.

There is already precedent for this when cops did red light photos or something and cropped the images (obviously to zoom in and see the offender/offence easier but in doing that they 'altered' the original evidence which is a big no no for courts. Plus facebook applies a compression algorithm so its also not the 'original' image.
If he has good lawyer he will get off this, hopefully doesn't panic and confess then all bets are off.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news...ket-thrown-out

"A Porirua lawyer may have set a legal precedent with far-reaching consequences after getting a $35 speeding ticket thrown out by a court.

In front of justices of the peace at Porirua District Court yesterday, barrister and solicitor Chris Ellis successfully argued his way out of the ticket, while never getting into a debate as to whether he was in fact speeding on State Highway 1 through Plimmerton, north of Wellington.

His submission was based on technicalities, including a claim that police manipulated evidence because they zoomed in on a photo of his number plate to read it.

He argued that the law required ''an image'' to show sufficient evidence of an offence. Neither of the two images provided by police showed enough evidence individually. "

[Zedder]

By all of 10 mph [ approx 18km/h]...

plus they are often have a lowered speed limit due to traffic or other conditions.

No, closer to 16kph. Stopping distance at 116 kph is 101 metres while 100kph is 77. But it's only all of 10mph...

NZ has lowered speed limits as well at times, there's still plenty of crashes.

[v twin]

By all of 10 mph [ approx 18km/h]...

plus they are often have a lowered speed limit due to traffic or other conditions.

Although the unspoken and widely known (inc the cops) speed limit on the motorways in the U.K. Is actually 157kph or 98mph.....

I was actually pulled over for a broken tail light at 115mph in wales and told to get it fixed...it was 3am though

[swbarnett]

No, closer to 16kph. Stopping distance at 116 kph is 101 metres while 100kph is 77. But it's only all of 10mph...

NZ has lowered speed limits as well at times, there's still plenty of crashes.

In Switzerland it's 20kph higher and 20kph lower on rural roads. The trick there is that only those that want to drive actually drive; the rest take the best public transport the world has to offer.

[Zedder]

The trick there is that only those that want to drive actually drive; the rest take the best public transport the world has to offer.

They've got it good alright. It's been quite a while since I was there but iirc it was trains every 15 minutes.

[jasonu]

And the speed limits on their motorways and dual carriageways are higher than here for a start.

Maybe they are better drivers...

[Zedder]

Maybe they are better drivers...

Haha, let's not go there...

[FJRider]

I wondered about that quote when I read it.

As we all know, speed was a factor in every fatal crash last year. Only one crash actually appears to have involved excess speed which is what could be seen as being implied by that quote. That particular crash has been discussed on KB already and involved an alcohol affected rider on a motocross bike on the road at night with no lights or helmet. I don't believe we should all be lumped together because of that one. The fact that that one is even counted as a motorbike fatality and will influence TPTB irks me.

He was riding a motorcycle.

An unregistered and unwarranted motorcycle.

(It was in a 50 km/hr zone ... Speed a factor .. ???)

No other vehicles were involved.

How could it NOT be counted in statistics ... as anything OTHER than a motorcycle accident ... ??? Not actually crashing on a road doesn't change anything. It was a publicly accessed area and as such ... legislation appropriate for that speed zoned area applies. If it were a four wheeled farm bike on a lifestyle block ... it should not be counted. Well ... for ACC purposes anyway ...

[swbarnett]

They've got it good alright. It's been quite a while since I was there but iirc it was trains every 15 minutes.

And if you were at the ticket counter buying a ticket for the train that was in the station they got on the radio and held the train.

The Swiss know service like no-one else.

[The End]

Really keen to see this photo

[pritch]

Really keen to see this photo

Yeah. This thread is no good without pics. Well, *the* pic.

[scumdog]

i'd think it'd be from increase in unlicensed drivers from foreign lands who are used to LHD cars and roads that are made of concrete littering the roads with their presence, then motorcyclist bodies

From my experience that is not as common as believed.

In fact quite a number of the serious/fatal crashes involve a single vehicle - the bike.

[Scubbo]

would statistics count if the party that was the problem (aka on the wrong side of the road) didnt get involved in the actual damage/indcident?

[Berries]

would statistics count if the party that was the problem (aka on the wrong side of the road) didnt get involved in the actual damage/indcident?

Now you are just looking for excuses, and assuming that the problem was a foreigner when it is still far more likely that if you have a head on crash it will be with a pissed/tired/speeding local.

For sure, overseas drivers are an issue, and getting worse by day with the rapid increase in Chinese visitors, but don't get sucked in by the media hype.

[russd7]

On a tangent.

I wonder if the relocation of the museum to Invercargill, and the increase in numbers riding for the museum and the Burt, have led to the increase in rider deaths.

''In 2016, 25% of fatal crashes in the Southern district involved motorcyclists and speed was a factor in many of these".

yeah but speed didn't cause the death, it woulda been the sudden de-celeration (is that a word?)

to be fair tho the roads around southland and otago are great riding roads and do attract a lot of motorcyclists, and there is a lot of bike rallies down this way as well, it would be interesting to know how many were locals (ie from the southern policing district) and how many were from out of the area.

now lets wait for the " all those deaths were caused by cars with foreign drivers"