New crash study.

[trufflebutter]

But I would rather rely on a car that was in front of me txting rather than behind txting. The only danger with that is if you follow them to closely if they leave the road while txting you may too. So by keeping a reasonable following distance you can still remain safe.

But you cannot follow a car through a bend (which is what responded to) if it is behind you.

''The only danger with that is if you follow them to closely if they leave the road while txting you may too''
Which is why I said ''Relying on a car in front probably does not fall into that category''

Please try and keep up and cease trying to confuse yourself with varying your argument.

[swbarnett]

e.g. car driving towards me on open road puts left indicator on and then proceeds to do right hand turn requiring me to slam brakes on to avoid a crash. This happened twice, same driver consecutive days, I don't know where he learned to drive but probably wasn't from this planet.

You should've had a word, at least after the second time. I've done this in the past to find that the car's indicators were wired wrong. The driver thought they were indicating correctly and was extremely grateful to have this pointed out.

[onearmedbandit]

Holy good fuck yourself if you ride along stopping in the middle of the road to give way to traffic that are about to pull out do you not risk being being rear ended by anyone who may be following? I would say in such a situation the chances of being rear ended by giving way would be greater than being hit by the car not giving way as most would give way rather than not give way to you in the situation you describe.

In this case I agree with the experienced riders who said there was nothing you could do. So I am not alone among experienced motorcyclists then in thinking the way I do. If you dont think you can be rear ended by following traffic go back to the post from the other poster who said it does happen and he said the way I stopped at lights put me at risk of being rear ended. I actually thought of him on Saturday when I was actually the first at the lights and I guess in such a situation he would pull off to the side of the road before the intersection untill enough traffic has pulled up in order for him to squeeze along side.

Any motorcyclist/car driver that says there is not an element of luck out there on the road is just a fool in my opinion. Generally speaking the faster you go the less luck you have and statistics prove this.

Idiot. Stop putting words in people's mouths or twisting things to suit your agenda. Point out where I said stopping in traffic because of a car pulling out. Go on, I fucking challenge you. Taking evasive action was all that required in that situation, but even though you haven't seen the video in question you think you know better. All the rider in the clip needed to do was slow and move to the right as they were too close to the left of the lane in the first instance.

As for agreeing with the experienced riders, when I pointed out my observation they admitted they hadn't seen that and if they had then that situation wouldn't have occurred. So you are agreeing with no one but ignorance.

Of course there is an element of luck in almost all aspects of life, but we can make our own 'luck' by being aware. Point in case, I feel quite lucky because it's not only me that is aware that you're the local fucking village idiot.

[madbikeboy]

No throttle body restriction as diesel is direct injection. Separate vacuum pump does the trick.

And, we have a winner.

[madbikeboy]

I never said the car was behind me but just gave a general example that txting drivers are better off in front than behind at all times. Get it now?

And we have the corresponding loser.

[nzspokes]

Lets say you do that and the oncoming vehicle doesnt. That fucks your idea.

You mean the car you have already seen and allowed for using observation?

[awayatc]

A friend of mine .

now i have heard it all.........


you comedian, you......

[trufflebutter]

I never said the car was behind me but just gave a general example that txting drivers are better off in front than behind at all times. Get it now?

Your words...
''But I would rather rely on a car that was in front of me txting rather than behind txting''

The word I really is a give away that you are expressing a person viewpoint. And ''a car that was in front of me'' clearly puts you behind it.
You continue to confuse yourself with varying your argument.

Because I can read and understand shit, I totally get what you are saying, but I suspect you do not?

[onearmedbandit]

Idiot yourself if you see a car about to pull out that you think "may" not give way to you how do you stop them from hitting you, by carrying on?

Observation my dear boy. You identify the car as a possible hazard and keep an eye on it to see if it starts to move. If it does you react accordingly. There are many identifiers you can look out for, without taking complete concentration away from being aware of what else is happening. Seriously this isn't that difficult.

[madbikeboy]

Your words...
''But I would rather rely on a car that was in front of me txting rather than behind txting''

The word I really is a give away that you are expressing a person viewpoint. And ''a car that was in front of me'' clearly puts you behind it.
You continue to confuse yourself with varying your argument.

Because I can read and understand shit, I totally get what you are saying, but I suspect you do not?

Separated at birth. Kellyanne Conway and Cassina. When I take over, them fuckers going up against the wall.

[madbikeboy]

Observation my dear boy. You identify the car as a possible hazard and keep an eye on it to see if it starts to move. If it does you react accordingly. There are many identifiers you can look out for, without taking complete concentration away from being aware of what else is happening. Seriously this isn't that difficult.

Situation awareness and intelligence are innate. You either have them. Or not. Thank fuck for Darwin's Law.

[onearmedbandit]

You are lucky to have always had time or swerve/brake. I had time to swerve once and got lucky and another time it happened so quick to not even have time to brake or swerve. When others screw up they dont do it at a constant speed and I have just given you 2 examples. Ignore my advise at your peril dear boy.

What advice? Rely on luck? Definitely.

[onearmedbandit]

Situation awareness and intelligence are innate. You either have them. Or not. Thank fuck for Darwin's Law.

I have the distinct feeling, no lets call it hope, that we're all being trolled.

[swbarnett]

Situation awareness and intelligence are innate. You either have them. Or not. Thank fuck for Darwin's Law.

Yes and no. Yes, you can have a genetic pre-disposition towards observation and/or IQ, but that does not mean those innate pre-dispositions will manifest themselves into real-world skills or a high IQ. Even natural concert pianists must practice till they're blue in the face to get as good as they do.

[caspernz]

Situation awareness and intelligence are innate. You either have them. Or not. Thank fuck for Darwin's Law.

There is a connection between the two, I reckon you need a modicum of intelligence to be able to learn situational awareness. In the unmentionable ones instance it might be the closed mind that's the problem...

I have the distinct feeling, no lets call it hope, that we're all being trolled.

Fingers crossed it's just one epic trolling effort...but what if it isn't?