Another near miss blathering....

[FJRider]

But if riding schools were so good why is it not a prerequisite to go to one when going for a motorcycle license?

Simply ... many believe that unless it's legally required ... they wont. These same people ride their motorcycle in shorts/T-shirt/jandals ... and crash helmet.

I have read that going to one can create overconfidence in riding ability.

I read that too. If you believe everything that is written ... read this- YOU are a fuck wit.

I agree with them as teaching safe riding where the rider is in control

Where do they teach safe riding where the rider has NO control .. ?? (that's probably where you learned all your idiocies)

but to suggest going to one to keep you safe from the screwups of others is just luck.

Motorcycling is dangerous ... but they can help you reduce a lot of the risks. But only if you listen to what they say ... and remember it at the critical times.

Your fate is in your hands ...

[nzspokes]

But if riding schools were so good why is it not a prerequisite to go to one when going for a motorcycle license? I have read that going to one can create overconfidence in riding ability. I agree with them as teaching safe riding where the rider is in control but to suggest going to one to keep you safe from the screwups of others is just luck.

The best way to survive is to be in control.

[Jeeper]

Distance can be controlled with throttle or brakes.

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[nzspokes]

But how much control you have when someone else fucks up all comes down to the distance you are away from them when they do which can never be predicted.

You should be able to stop in the distance you see to be clear.

[caspernz]

But if riding schools were so good why is it not a prerequisite to go to one when going for a motorcycle license? I have read that going to one can create overconfidence in riding ability. I agree with them as teaching safe riding where the rider is in control but to suggest going to one to keep you safe from the screwups of others is just luck.

I'll suggest that our licensing system has been based on lowest common denominator for too long. To learn Roadcraft properly isn't a practical option for obtaining a licence, for it takes a while to master. But yes I agree it would be good to have a foundation of Roadcraft included in the licence requirements.

The overconfidence angle can't be denied, albeit it for a small proportion. Think of it in terms of benefit of the greater good, the majority of folks who attend advanced rider training improve their skills and own safety, if the small number who choose to ride beyond their ability wish to blame an advanced rider scheme for that...well, they were always gonna crash anyway weren't they?

As for keeping you safe from other peoples' screw-ups, situational awareness and hazard identification takes care of the vast majority. Again I suggest if you partake in a Rideforever course you can judge this for yourself, as at this stage you just don't know what you don't know. Much like I learned quite a few things when going thru advanced rider training, most of these were things I never even thought about, but they've now become second nature. In simple terms, I just didn't know what I didn't know. Ashamed to admit there was quite a bit to learn...

But how much control you have when someone else fucks up all comes down to the distance you are away from them when they do which can never be predicted.

Yeah well, you seem fixated on what others do...yet if I suggest your own responses to a developing situation can make the difference...and one of the keys is in the answer from nzspokes below.

You should be able to stop in the distance you see to be clear.

Yes, this is one of the fundamentals to keeping safe, regardless of the mode of transport. Also one of the simple rules many folks ignore, unfortunately

[nzspokes]

But unlike you I have been in crashes where going to riding school would not have saved me because things just happened too fast. As I said its all how much gap there is between you and whoever screws up. I will say it again shit happened for the motorbike racer too quick for him to brake or swerve too. I find it very odd that no one on here is critical of his inability to avoid the car. Maybe if I was a motorcycle racer and had a crash with a car no one would be critical of my ridng ability either.

Dont accelerate into developing situation.

[FJRider]

I will say it again shit happened for the motorbike racer too quick for him to brake or swerve too. I find it very odd that no one on here is critical of his inability to avoid the car. Maybe if I was a motorcycle racer and had a crash with a car no one would be critical of my ridng ability either.

I have read most of the reports of his death. None of those reports stated any of the circumstances of that accident. ANY statement you make stating the cause ... or critical of that racers inability to avoid that accident is just ludicrous in the extreme.

He was on a push bike and probably only wearing a bike helmet and Lycra for protection. Not all the safety gear he would normally be wearing on the track.

Talk about something you actually KNOW about. Surprise us ... or remain silent.

[awayatc]

I ride a push bike too so am better qualified than you to say there is a risk similarity.

Woman...

The risk similarity is YOU!

Just Talking to somebody must be extremely hazardous for you....

[nzspokes]

So learning to sense that shit is about to happen can only be taught if you are riding a motorbike? You are the ludicrous one if you see no risk similarity between a push bike and a motorbike. I ride a push bike too so am better qualified than you to say there is a risk similarity.

Not even close.

[T.W.R]

I ride a tricycle so am better qualified than you to say that I am a fucking risk!!.

Remedied for you ya queer prick