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[Katman]

Did you just call Grumph not technically minded? good lord, you have no fucking idea do you

Except she actually didn't though, did she?

[Becki94]

I've tried with Start Ya bastard, gets so close to starting but just no cigar. Thinking it's plugs but can't be sure without getting to them unfortunately! And nope it's not a white one, she's a red one with a facelift, and only done 18k km but has been sitting and occasionally started over the years. just a pain in the ass without the right tools!

[FJRider]

Yet again you make yourself look as you are..... STUPID

They aren't even able to get the plugs out plus spraying that shit straight in the cylinders is the perfect way to fuck bores


And to the OP if it's a creamy white GTR I worked the bugger plenty of times a few years back...it was always coming into the shop for one thing or another ....

Was "one thing or another"... ever an air filter .. ??? I'd be looking at that.

[T.W.R]

Wow you fuckwit think I made it up? Go and look the specs up before you make any more of a dick of yourself rubbishing them.

Absolutely no rubbishing CRC at all....just directly aimed at you, you completely prove every time you know sweet FA.
5.56 CRC is a lubricant for slow moving pivoting parts etc and definitely not for lubricating an internal combustion engine.

Honestly give a real laugh....what's your trade??

[bogan]

I would have no idea if that poster is technically minded or not for the simple reason I have never met them. So there is no need to be a smart arse about it just because you have.

You haven't met me though, and I haven't met him either...

Except she actually didn't though, did she?

[T.W.R]

Was "one thing or another"... ever an air filter .. ??? I'd be looking at that.

ha 1st time it came into the shop was just a basic top to bottom service, 2nd time was service, wof which included fork seals plus some minor bits n pieces. 3rd time valve seals & couple of other bits, and the 4th time I saw it was another full service
That was 8yrs or so back so god knows what treatment it's had since then

[robajs]

try larger than normal throttle opening with starting fluid as these fluids seem to like way more air to work well.
also the kms on the bike may be more than on the odo so the starter motor may be worn and drawing
too much power. have you tried the good old push start with a dose of starting fluid?

[FJRider]

I was bright enough to suggest a possible solution to poster 1's problem. You are just jealous or frightened of being ridiculed to think of a possible solution yourself.

State exactly what actual issue would the CRC spayed down the bore fix ..... ?????????

You listed a number of uses for the product. Which one of those uses be the probable issue on the bike .. ???

A rusty bore maybe ... ???

CRC dispels water ... leaking head gasket maybe ... ?? might need more than one can for that.

The OP didn't say it was squeaking ... so that's out. And I doubt if there's much tar in the bore ...

And I can't imagine lubrication (lack of) is the issue.



If being "Technically minded" ... means spraying CRC 5.56 everywhere ...

[FJRider]

ha 1st time it came into the shop was just a basic top to bottom service, 2nd time was service, wof which included fork seals plus some minor bits n pieces. 3rd time valve seals & couple of other bits, and the 4th time I saw it was another full service
That was 8yrs or so back so god knows what treatment it's had since then

Through (bitter) experience ... it's the lack of treatment that does the damage ...

[T.W.R]

Through (bitter) experience ... it's the lack of treatment that does the damage ...

Well the OP has said it isn't the white bugger that lived in DC-town so that's solved that

But in context of the white one.....it was 230000km plus & counting when I saw it last so 8yrs later it's probably done it's dash anyhow. The owner wasn't anywhere near mechanically minded either but knew full well no fiddle with things he didn't understand.

[bogan]

Where did I say CRC was a replacement for engine oil or petrol for that matter? Poster 1 has just said he has tried Start Ya Bastard which means according to some of you he has stuffed his motor and I am just saying engine start (CRC in my case) does not stuff motors if used to start them only but sure it would if you used it as a petrol or oil replacement.

Fuck no.

Start Ya Bastard is Ether based, and will not damage an engine with normal use. Nobody here has said that will damage an engine when used correctly.

I am not in the motor trade but come from an electrical background although not an electrician. Hope you get a laugh from me having an electrical and not a background as a motor mechanic.

[T.W.R]

Where did I say CRC was a replacement for engine oil or petrol for that matter? Poster 1 has just said he has tried Start Ya Bastard which means according to some of you he has stuffed his motor and I am just saying engine start (CRC in my case) does not stuff motors if used to start them only but sure it would if you used it as a petrol or oil replacement.

I am not in the motor trade but come from an electrical background although not an electrician. Hope you get a laugh from me having an electrical and not a background as a motor mechanic.

FFS you're so thick you don't even realise what you did with your magic can when you say you got this imaginary bike of you had started on all cylinders with it

Spraying the likes of start ya bastard directly into cylinders will & does act like a severe detergent in the combustion chamber....it pools in the lowest point of the chamber, washes the bore & rings in that area and causes blow-by, next thing there's scoring in that area...continued act of doing this with fuck the bores quick smart.
It's meant to be used externally to the intake tracts of the airbox or pre-cleaner etc


meter reader huh

[FJRider]

With my bike that had little use and was left outside the CRC would have removed any mild corrosion and condensation.

I'm sure there was little corrosion or condensation inside the engine of your bike ... but ... I asked what issue you would hope to fix in the OP's bike ... by spraying it down the bore .. ???

[Becki94]

She's done genuine low kms luckily, just hoping the rings etc haven't perished from sitting too long! If I can't sort it tomorrow I'll try mail my compression tester down along with my sockets to pull the plugs and go from there. Really hoping replacing them will just do the trick...

[T.W.R]

Funny that a poster has just said Start Ya Bastard
will not harm motors only CRC will due to the different chemical compounds in each. I say again the bike would not be going 10 years later if what you say is true. I only give each cylinder that needs it about a 5 sec squirt and not fill the cylinders up with it if you and others think that.

5secs of spraying that shit into a confined area will leave an amount close to a tablespoon full of liquid

The only way you got away with getting that engine started doing that with CRC was you were temporarily upping the compression just the same principle as squirting some oil in the bores for a leakdown or compression test.

for a wee experiment for yourself on a flat surface pour two wee amounts of oil, on the 1st spray some start ya bastard or engine start and on the 2nd spray some 5.56...take note of what happens to both, then imagine what happens when a more concentrated amount of each does to a very fine film of oil on a hardened surface