The 2017 Election Thread

[husaberg]

Never gonna happen

Last time you went on about Rhetoric you looked rather EGGlike

Had you ever heard of or used the word rhetoric before it became about the most common and trendy word to use by the liberal USA media (closely followed by the shit NZ media) after their Hillary lost the election?

Sounds like another stalling tactic.
Yes, i often have , without wishing to be sounding like a braggart, i have a fairly extensive vocabulary. Just exceedingly lazy grammar punctuation and spelling.
If you will look back in 2011 which if i are not mistaken precedes your last presidential election by a fairly substantial margin, i used the word fairly regularly.
Two pages worth in fact. looks like i used it 12 times at least just on KB alone before Trump even announced his candidacy.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1130134450
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1130164131
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1130163561
But we digress, i still dont see any of the examples i asked for 2 days ago yet.
So enough with your obfuscating, post the examples then.

But clearly going on that someone else doesn't answer questions when you refuse to answer ones, put to you, spells out hypocrite.

it would almost be akin moaning to multiple mods about a pic claiming that it was obtained by some nefarious means off anther site when in truth you forgot you posted yourself on KB.

[sidecar bob]

I simply asked wether you were ok with kwibuild being dumped & specifically asked for no rehtoric.
Realistically i would have been happy with a one word answer.
I have multiple proof that youre quite a smart guy, so im flabbergasted that this one has got you stumped.

[husaberg]

I simply asked wether you were ok with kwibuild being dumped & specifically asked for no rehtoric.
Realistically i would have been happy with a one word answer.
I have multiple proof that youre quite a smart guy, so im flabbergasted that this one has got you stumped.

That policy wasn't what got them in, but selling off all the houses and saying its to build more when they never did was what got the nats out, that along with hundreds of other broken promises
But you can always tell when someone is attempting to buy their way in they will promise tax cuts then pay for them with borrowing. Leaving the bill for future generations to pay for them.

Maybe you should ask how many of the people that voted for labour did so because of anything to do with Kiwi-build.
I think you will find it was more to do with stopping another 4 years of assets sales and overseas borrowing.
But i don't know why you are so worried about what labour does .
you would be better served sorting out a decent leader for the National party, as they will not win an election under Simon Bridges.
Nor will they win one with Judy Collins. No mater how much lippy they dress her up with, kiwis still remember her last time at the trough.

Here a hint, i clearly couldn't give a shit if the target are reached. bit that t was attempted rather then the oppssite of saaying they would do one thing then doing the reverse, Kiwibuild wasn't a cornerstone of the election, The only people that are now desperately grasping onto it are the one that are desperate to get any form of traction or create a diversion away for the train wreak figures that tell the tale of the National leadership.


Do you think National can win an election with no coalition partners other than one mp they gift ACT with Simon bridges as leader?
Do you think they can win an election with Collins as a leader?
Do you think they can win an election with Paula benefit as leader?
Prior to the election Nationals big big target of Labour policy was an alleged 11 billion dollar budget hole they claimed Labour had.
Where is that? if national said it was there ,where is it? Could it be they where they 100% wrong just as everyone else said they were.

While we are on the subject if as you claim NZ is being run by idiots why are the figures all positive why last year was the Current NZ government the 3rd most trusted in the world.

[sidecar bob]

Here a hint, i clearly couldn't give a shit if the target are reached. it wasn't a cornerstone of the election the only people that are now desperately grasping onto it are the one that are desperate toget any form of traction or diversion away for the train wreack figures of the National leadership. DO you think National can win an election with no coalition partners other than one mp they gift ACT with Simon bridges as leader
Do you think they can win an election with Collins as a leader
Do you think they can win an election with Paula benefit as leader
Prior to the election Nationals big big target of Labour policy was an alledged 11 billion dollar budget hole they claimed Labour had.
Where is that if national said it was there ,where is it? or where they 100% wrong just as everyone else said.

While we are on the subject if as you claim NZ is being run by idiots why are the figures all positve why last year wass the Current NZ government the 3rd most trusted in the world.

Yes yes, but if a mechanic talked a big game in order to build you a bike, he got it apart & realised it was too hard & sent it back to you in boxes would you think he was a muppet?
Theres tradesemen on fair go every week that havent come through on a promise just like these drongos.
And Jacinda's tilted head interested look isint fooling anyone, shes clearly shitting herself 90% of the time.

[Katman]

I have multiple proof that youre quite a smart guy.....

Well you're easily fooled then.

[husaberg]

Well you're easily fooled then.

tell everyone about that geet engine that runs on water or cofffee grounds or unicorn spoof that even though its a well know scam from a man with a history of mental illness how its really great.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...ernative-fuels

See, that's what makes you a fucking moron.

What the fuck has him being sent to a nuthouse have to do with the theory of what we're discussing?

Or how NZ farmers kill of 5 month old calves at the works after Rodeos
Or how there are numerous effective alternatives to 1080 on inaccessible back blocks in NZ

[jasonu]

tell everyone about that geet engine that runs on water or cofffeee grounds or unicorn spoof that even though its a well know scam from a man with a history of mental illness how its really great.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...ernative-fuels



Or how NZ farmers kill of 5 month old calves at the works after Rodeos
Or how there are numerous effective alternatives to 1080 on inaccessible back blocks in NZ

Talk about off topic!!!!! What does any of that have to do with the 2017 election?

[husaberg]

Yes yes, but if a mechanic talked a big game in order to build you a bike, he got it apart & realised it was too hard & sent it back to you in boxes would you think he was a muppet?
Theres tradesemen on fair go every week that havent come through on a promise just like these drongos.
And Jacinda's tilted head interested look isint fooling anyone, shes clearly shitting herself 90% of the time.

or cool metaphors, So what about the tradesman that said he was going to build a houses and instead he sold off all your other houses while your back was turned (at a loss) to his mates, who then rented them back to you for a profit.
There was even a referendum where the country voted not to sell off assets which the "builder" pretended wasn't applicable. Not a peep out of you about it though.
You thought that was okay fo the last 9 years previous. So why all of a sudden does it mater? you never wanted the houses built, you never seen the need, you were happy to pretend there wasn't a housing shortage tright up until election day.
Only then is it a national shortage.

We both know when the mechanic realise's hes out of his depth he doesn't send all the bits back. Only a bill. if he from taupo hes at the shollow end and you will get a note blaming big pharma or the jews

[husaberg]

Talk about off topic!!!!! What does any of that have to do with the 2017 election?

Really hes allowed to insinuate people are thick but no ones allowed to show with facts that he is of sub par intellect. Interesting set of rules you have their, sport.
You ought to complain to a mod about it, while you are at it, tell them i posted this pic as well. Then you should make up a story that it was stolen off your twitter account or something. when in truth you posted it yourself.

[sidecar bob]

or cool metaphors, So what about the tradesman that said he was going to build a houses and instead he sold off all your other houses while your back was turned (at a loss) to his mates, who then rented them back to you for a profit.
There was even a referendum where the country voted not to sell off assets which the "builder" pretended wasn't applicable. Not a peep out of you about it though.
You thought that was okay fo the last 9 years previous. So why all of a sudden does it mater? you never wanted the houses built, you never seen the need, you were happy to pretend there wasn't a housing shortage tright up until election day.
Only then is it a national shortage.

We both know when the mechanic realise's hes out of his depth he doesn't send all the bits back. Only a bill. if he from taupo hes at the shollow end and you will get a note blaming big pharma or the jews

But Nashnil

[jasonu]

Really hes allowed to insinuate people are thick but no ones allowed to show with facts that he is of sub par intellect. Interesting set of rles you have their sport.
You ought to complain to a mod about it, while you are at it, tell them i posted this pic as well. Then you should make up a story that it was stolen off your twitter account or something. when in truth you posted it yourself.

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the arse.

[husaberg]

But Nashnil

What wrong with a few home truths about comparing apples with apples , its an election thread, there is only two parties with a preferred PM over 4%. (Simon is over 4% this week isn't he?)
Actually last i heard Simon was only 3% in the preferred PM stakes ahead of a guy that's not even a member of a political party. Let alone a leader of one.

[sidecar bob]

What wrong with a few home truths about comparing apples with apples , its an election thread, there is only two parties with a preferred PM over 4%. (Simon is over 4% this week isn't he?)
Actually last i heard Simon was only 3% in the preferred PM stakes ahead of a guy that's not even a member of a political party. Let alone a leader of one.

If you had been paying attention you would know that national have a very viable leader up their sleeves.
I've repeatedly said I doubt National could win Tiddly Winks with the current line up, but I doubt they would be cynical enough to pull out their tooth fairy after the campaign has started.
Why can't you give me your views on the dumping of a major election policy?
I can be honest about the blue team, you would have more credibility if you could accept that the dumping of Kiwibuild is the major fuck up that it is.

[husaberg]

If you had been paying attention you would know that national have a very viable leader up their sleeves.
I've repeatedly said I doubt National could win Tiddly Winks with the current line up, but I doubt they would be cynical enough to pull out their tooth fairy after the campaign has started.
Why can't you give me your views on the dumping of a major election policy?
I can be honest about the blue team, you would have more credibility if you could accept that the dumping of Kiwibuild is the major fuck up that it is.

You replied to two of my posts that have stuff in them you claim are not answered or news to me. Constantly pretending i haven't answered or claiming i dont understand stuff i clearly do isn't really doing the validity of your points any good.

Here a hint, i clearly couldn't give a shit if the target are reached. bit that t was attempted rather then the opposite of saying they would do one thing then doing the reverse, Kiwibuild wasn't a cornerstone of the election, The only people that are now desperately grasping onto it are the one that are desperate to get any form of traction or create a diversion away for the train wreak figures that tell the tale of the National leadership.

What wrong with a few home truths about comparing apples with apples , its an election thread, there is only two parties with a preferred PM over 4%. (Simon is over 4% this week isn't he?)
Actually last i heard Simon was only 3% in the preferred PM stakes ahead of a guy that's not even a member of a political party. Let alone a leader of one.

the fact National is going to have to outsource to find a leader for a third time in about 15 years shows no one on in the party ranks is up to the task.
That fact that its common knowledge they are courting a leader outside of their own party should be a hint that even with in the national party they know those in their own party are clearly not up to the job of winning an election or heaven forbid running a country.

[sidecar bob]

You replied to two of my posts that have stuff in them you claim are not answered or news to me. Constantly pretending i haven't answered.

You haven't answered, I've asked for a yes or now answer as to wether you think dumping kiwi build is a fuck up.
If you can quote me where you have done that I'll accept that you have answered.
What's so hard about that?
You've come up with some irrelevant "counter dirt" but while you can shout from the rooftops that you have answered me, you haven't.
I'm not a complex bloke, yes or no will be fine.