The AA

[rastuscat]

Or my pet hate....Random indicating/no indicating at roundabouts.....

Amount of police resources/enforcement I have seen in this or any other area of road safety policing?

Zero

The only positive contribution I see nz police make to road safety is their breathilising check points.

Apart from that the entire policing effort seems to be directed to speed tax collection.

Shamefull

I was on a checkpoint close to a roundabout one day back in about 2008. A patrol bike was waiting at the roundabout, and a guy came straight through from the other direction, without indicating his exit. I happened to see the whole thing. It was one of those annoying things.

I stopped the guy and wrote him a ticket, failed to indicate exit from roundabout. Went to court, spent hours preparing the papers etc, guy turns up and lies his face off, JPs feel sorry for him, found not guilty.

If you ever wonder why cops don't prosecute some things, it's because the courts don't take it seriously.

[awayatc]

If we want to be serious about roadsafety , then
the whole kabudle needs a serious overhaul...from licencing up.
Appreciate the fact that individual police officers work within a system.
That system it self however is broken/defunct....

[skinman]

I once saw a cop indicating right while approaching a roundabout & go straight on. I really hate that & would have expected a cop to get it right. refrained from flipping him the bird

[Cosmik de Bris]

I was on a checkpoint close to a roundabout one day back in about 2008. A patrol bike was waiting at the roundabout, and a guy came straight through from the other direction, without indicating his exit. I happened to see the whole thing. It was one of those annoying things.

I stopped the guy and wrote him a ticket, failed to indicate exit from roundabout. Went to court, spent hours preparing the papers etc, guy turns up and lies his face off, JPs feel sorry for him, found not guilty.

If you ever wonder why cops don't prosecute some things, it's because the courts don't take it seriously.

Roundabouts are a real problem for signalling. If you are turning it is not so bad but if you are going through you have little time to signal. You have to wait until you are past the left entry and signal before you get to the exit, my car doesn't even do one blink in that time. Now you ar going to say one should slow down but in today's traffic you need to keep the traffic flowing. It makes more sense to me to signal left or if you are turning right, no signal means straight through. I think you are being particularly mean in giving a ticket for this when there are so many more infringements that get ignored.

Cheers

[Moi]

If we want to be serious about roadsafety , then
the whole kabudle needs a serious overhaul...from licencing up.
Appreciate the fact that individual police officers work within a system.
That system it self however is broken/defunct....

+1


As for roundabouts, okay not indicating is annoying if you're waiting to get onto the roundabout. But that's just discourteous driving... and very common...

I'd rather see traffic police dealing to actions that are dangerous, such as tailgating.

[GazzaH]

The speed, positioning and orientation of the vehicle is a pretty good indication of where it's headed, especially a bike. Indicators are handy for people joining the same roundabout -a clue as to whether the vehicle on the roundabout is planning to turn off before them or carry on past them - and provided they are sensible enough to wait until they are sure their way ahead is clear, no problem.

Oh, hang on a mo, sensible =/= NZ driving.

Cagers pulling out onto a roundabout in front of (side on to) oncoming bikes are more of a concern for bikers who don't clearly indicate that they are continuing around not turning off before. I'm always very wary of cagers approaching the roundabout at speed ahead of me: are they planning to keep going? Am I invisible? Do they care?

[Jeff Sichoe]

just make eye contact and people generally don't ram into you

[Moi]

just make eye contact and people generally don't ram into you

That would work, provided the vehicle's windows aren't covered in "privacy tint"... Yeah, I know the rules say something about from the B-pillar back but that doesn't stop some from tinting all the windows. And why is it not picked up at WoF time? Plus, you can't see through those vehicles to see what's happening up ahead or on their other side...