Number plate recognition

[swbarnett]

Your body, your risk?

I guess that means that you'll be happy to pay the professional fees of a plastic surgeon trying to reconstruct your face after face planting a steering wheel.

And for the ambulance which picks you up. And the A&E folk who triage your injuries and call the plastic surgeon.

I understand your point though. I disagree with a number of our current rules. Cycle helmets being compulsory, for example. More lives have been lost through obesity through lack of cycling than head injuries saved by the rule.

We can disagree with the Rules. But it's a stretch to say that we should be allowed to make our own calls on everything. When there is a societal cost.

Nowhere did I say that we should have carte blanche on everything. Only those things where we are the only possible direct victim. Personal autonomy tempered with an empathy for the needs of others is all I'm talking about. By all means have laws that stop me harming anyone else (anyone with a good sense of right and wrong will never run foul of these) but noone has the right to try and save me from myself.

And as for the financial cost, I will gladly help fund a system that creates a society where we are all free to pursue our passions. Yes, some people will get it wrong and need costly recovery efforts. That's the trade-off that I will happily live with.

If we don't do this the inevitable end is that anything that is remotely risky will be banned and life will become a drudge from beginning to end to the point that the suicide rate will go through the roof.

[swbarnett]

...how does Plod know who is capable of excessive speed and handling it all and someone who thinks they are good enough but in reality are dangers to themselves and others...

This is actually my point, they don't. Given that why give them a job that they can't possibly do? Arbitrary laws don't solve this situation either. I would far rather allow someone to make their own decisions about their own lives and get it wrong than stifle the entire society to the point where there's no point in living.

[Honest Andy]

Nowhere did I say that we should have carte blanche on everything. Only those things where we are the only possible direct victim. Personal autonomy tempered with an empathy for the needs of others is all I'm talking about. By all means have laws that stop me harming anyone else (anyone with a good sense of right and wrong will never run foul of these) but noone has the right to try and save me from myself.

And as for the financial cost, I will gladly help fund a system that creates a society where we are all free to pursue our passions. Yes, some people will get it wrong and need costly recovery efforts. That's the trade-off that I will happily live with.

If we don't do this the inevitable end is that anything that is remotely risky will be banned and life will become a drudge from beginning to end to the point that the suicide rate will go through the roof.

Ahh. You're talking about personal freedom. Don't be bloody silly. Nobody is stopping you building a private road and killing yourself on it.
You've got all the personal freedoms you could wish for, and more.
But when it comes to a public place, where I might be, I want you to be a bit more sensible than this stupid bloody claptrap suggests.

[Maha]

3:46 AM and on Kiwi Biker

That's dedication.

Vote Axley

Getting ready to creep up on unsuspecting farm animals.

[swbarnett]

Ahh. You're talking about personal freedom. Don't be bloody silly. Nobody is stopping you building a private road and killing yourself on it.

So freedom is only for the rich.

Like others you seem to be missing the fact that I said "doing no harm to anyone".

[Akzle]

that the suicide rate will go through the roof.

nz is already liek, worst in oecd.

[trufflebutter]

the suicide rate will go through the roof.

.....and hit the concrete?

[scumdog]

So freedom is only for the rich.

Like others you seem to be missing the fact that I said "doing no harm to anyone".

'Personal freedom' and 'doing no harm to anyone' are at times mutually exclusive.

[Akzle]

'Personal freedom' and 'doing no harm to anyone' are at times mutually exclusive.

no.no.

legislaition has has not stopped even one infringement. ever.

[scumdog]

no.no.

legislaition has has not stopped even one infringement. ever.

Get back to yer slug guns...

[Akzle]

Get back to yer slug guns...

ok... so remind me of that time someone chose not to commit a crime because it was illegal.....

[bogan]

If I had to pick one word to describe dear old axklze, it'd be "delusions of competence"

[Honest Andy]

ok... so remind me of that time someone chose not to commit a crime because it was illegal.....

Oh are you talking about that time I decided not to do 70 in a 50kph zone?

[Akzle]

Oh are you talking about that time I decided not to do 70 in a 50kph zone?

you never exceed the posted speed limit? fuck me you are honest, andy.

[razza11]

you never exceed the posted speed limit? fuck me you are honest, andy.

He just said not 70 in a 50. Didn't say he stuck to 50. Making it look like he's honest.

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