Restricted licence

[pete-blen]

So who the hell hands out the licences these days...
43 odd years ago when I got mine it was the "Now long gone" MOT..
my boy will be able to start going for his in september..



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[rastuscat]

So who the hell hands out the licences these days...
43 odd years ago when I got mine it was the "Now long gone" MOT..
my boy will be able to start going for his in september..



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The perception that it's too easy to get a license is based on how we got our 30 plus years ago. It's more complex now than it used to be.

A German client of ours recently advised that she wanted to get her Class 6 while here. In Germany it costs around 2000 Euro to get a motorcycle licence. You have to do 120 hours with an instructor. 40 hours in the city, 40 hours on the motorway, and 40 hours in the dark.

Imagine if we had that system here. Already we have around 30% of our riders not having the right licence for the bike they are riding. The harder you make it, the more likely it is that people will just say Fek It, and ride anyway.

[Moi]

The perception that it's too easy to get a license is based on how we got our 30 plus years ago. It's more complex now than it used to be.

A German client of ours recently advised that she wanted to get her Class 6 while here. In Germany it costs around 2000 Euro to get a motorcycle licence. You have to do 120 hours with an instructor. 40 hours in the city, 40 hours on the motorway, and 40 hours in the dark.

Imagine if we had that system here. Already we have around 30% of our riders not having the right licence for the bike they are riding. The harder you make it, the more likely it is that people will just say Fek It, and ride anyway.

A couple of thoughts...

doubt if the average German would ride or drive unless they had the correct licence, it's the Teutonic way you know...

perhaps that's why they ride and drive with skill and are allowed to make "adult" type choices about how fast they'll go on the autobahnen...

[rastuscat]

A couple of thoughts...

doubt if the average German would ride or drive unless they had the correct licence, it's the Teutonic way you know...

perhaps that's why they ride and drive will skill and are allowed to make "adult" type choices about how fast they'll go on the autobahnen...

Indeed. It's a very different system here. And a different environment.

[HEsch]

I believe the German system for car licences also contains a set number of the required-instruction hours in ice/snow conditions.


I'm certainly thankful I've had a few years on the road in cars, towing large trailers, etc - I have much healthier respect for road positioning and other road users (and their ability to do stupid things). The most "memorable" was a guy who came to a complete and very sudden halt in front of me, with my horse float, travelling at 90 (or maybe 100...) on the Southern Mtw near Papakura. Asshole. Trying to teach me some kind of lesson I guess but I nearly ploughed into his POS old rust bucket with my big SUV (combined weight of car float and live load would have been pushing 3 ton). I confirmed I could stop the rig in a real hurry, that's for sure (different to a "practice" situation).

[HEsch]

FWIW, I booked the training and CBTA assessment. Roll on 15 Sept.

[Jeeper]

Good luck. Hopefully weather plays nice

[HEsch]

Thanks! Fingers crossed. I can wear my wets if I need to so no biggie. But already preparing myself mentally for commuting in all weather

[HEsch]

Pleased to say I passed. Long afternoon, I'm feeling it now (definitely not 'fit' for 5.5 hours riding at the moment!). Half hour there, bit of chit chat, checked bike, went over instructions/process etc. 3 hours training session. Stopped for a coffee, went over the official testing instructions, about an hour for the test, all done! Debrief and paperwork then half hour to get home.

Off to the AA tomorrow to pay for the bit of plastic that makes it all legal.

[caspernz]

Congrats! Enjoy the next stage...

[Jeeper]

Congrats. Great work.

[awayatc]

A couple of thoughts...

doubt if the average German would ride or drive unless they had the correct licence, it's the Teutonic way you know...

perhaps that's why they ride and drive with skill and are allowed to make "adult" type choices about how fast they'll go on the autobahnen...

No wet bus ticket system either in Germany.....
You get caught , you suffer badly and immediately.
Foreigner? You pay fine on the spot or leave vehicle behind.