Displaying WOF and Reg stickers

[caspernz]

Having that little bit of perceived power makes their minge twinge, yes even the male ones.

Trying to take a photo of a ship berthed at Princes Wharf some years ago, I stepped inside that red fence a few meters to get a better shot, this security guard came up to me and asked ...conversation went as follows.

''Are you boarding the boat''?
''No just want a photo''
''Step back out onto the foot path please'' so I took a couple of steps back.
''Is this far enough''?
''No'' so I took a couple of steps back.
''Is this far enough''?
''No'' so I take couple more steps back
''How about now''?
''Back on the foot path please'' so now I am on the foot path
''Is this okay''?
''Yes''.

''Right now get out of my fucking way so that I can take a photo''

Security guards...oh boy do I have some anecdotes about them. Delivering at a petrol station after hours, when I used to haul fuel, for some reason set off the site alarm. Oh well, not my problem really. Started delivering, next security guard turns up asking (no demanding) what the hell I was doing. Ok Sherlock, the truck, my uniform and the servo livery all match up, would you like me to draw you a crayon picture? He insisted I couldn't be there and that I should leave forthwith or he'd call the real police. My laugh made sure he called them real quick...

Only a few minutes later 2 marked police cars scream up with blues and twos, a full compliment of boys in blue hop out, maybe expecting the place has been robbed/burgled whatever. Finding no suspicious activity the senior constable asks me who called for help. I kindly directed him to the chap who was masquerading as a security guard. Much laughter later, delivery completed by now, and the boys in blue all having a mighty big laugh before we all went our merry way.

Parking wardens I've not had any issues with personally, although it must be said I follow Rastus' advice in keeping my vehicles legal and all. Maybe I'm missing out on some fun because of it...

[Scuba_Steve]

Sigmund Freud identified a number of self defence mechanisms when considering identity.

One such is deflection. When accused of something, simply blame the person accusing you. It makes you feel as if it's not your fault.

This happens frequently with tickets. For example, people get seatbelt tickets because the snakes are revenue collecting scum, who have a quota to fill.

When in fact, people get seatbelt tickets because they weren't wearing their seatbelt.

It suits us to bag parking wardens, it makes us feel better about parking tickets.

Just a reflection.

Seatbelt really has nothing to do with anyone but me, if I don't want to wear one that should be upto me I'm the one going to suffer the effects; so yes "revenue collecting scum" as you say
Parking wardens provide a non-service, they do nothing that actually helps anyone so it's quite easy to think them also "revenue collecting scum"; hell WellyTown City Council even indirectly call them as such as they openly admit paid parking has nothing to do with moving people along, it's all about the money!

[AllanB]

shire-ly a parking warden should only be checking the metal lump isnt taking up the parking space for longer than stated time on the sign as set by council as voted in by "peers"

how can they impose any other fine other than the lump taking up designated space type infringements? super unqualified I would have thought?

just reading this: https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/p...-officers-job/

they can check your tires and stuff too... wonder what qualifies them for the job?

It's all local body certified.

I don't have a issue with them being able to fine for not having a WOF or rego - I have seen some very dangerous cars parked on the side of the road - metal cords showing through tyres and the like. Fuckers should be done for potential manslaughter driving a piece of shit like that.

The thing with late model cars is - you do nothing to them. Once a year if lucky they get a mechanical service (and no doubt the owner bitches about the cost), they are so reliable that people have LOST the personal responsibility of physically checking their own tyres etc to ensure they are roadworthy.

[rambaldi]

It's all local body certified.

I don't have a issue with them being able to fine for not having a WOF or rego - I have seen some very dangerous cars parked on the side of the road - metal cords showing through tyres and the like. Fuckers should be done for potential manslaughter driving a piece of shit like that.

The thing with late model cars is - you do nothing to them. Once a year if lucky they get a mechanical service (and no doubt the owner bitches about the cost), they are so reliable that people have LOST the personal responsibility of physically checking their own tyres etc to ensure they are roadworthy.

Having checked out a few of the bikes that I have seen parked up, the ones that have an out of data rego tend to not be ones where the owner has just forgotten to do it. The rego is usually out by at least a year or two (and the owners are parking them where they know the council can't check). Similar goes for the ones that were unwarrantable, they were not just a little bit outside the line they were a lot. Probably ex hyosung cup racers. More zip tie that bike (and certain more duck tape than exhaust).

[rastuscat]

Parking wardens provide a non-service, they do nothing that actually helps anyone so it's quite easy to think them also "revenue collecting scum"

When I drive into the city and I want to find a kerbside P60 park, I don't want that P60 parked in by someone who just thinks they own the space. I want the P60s enforced.

So does the shop owners nearby, who want parking spaces to be available to customers, not parked out by selfish bastards who just don't give a toss.

It's about rationing a finite asset i.e. roadside parking spaces.

And while they are at it, I think it would be dumb if a parking warden could slap a parking ticket on a car, but be unable to do nothing about the expired reg or warrant.

As the law stands, the owner of a vehicle is deemed liable for that vehicle when it is in a public place. I'm okay with parking wardens tagging expired WoF and licence labels, as I have the sense to keep mine current.

[Scuba_Steve]

When I drive into the city and I want to find a kerbside P60 park, I don't want that P60 parked in by someone who just thinks they own the space. I want the P60s enforced.

So does the shop owners nearby, who want parking spaces to be available to customers, not parked out by selfish bastards who just don't give a toss.

It's about rationing a finite asset i.e. roadside parking spaces.

And while they are at it, I think it would be dumb if a parking warden could slap a parking ticket on a car, but be unable to do nothing about the expired reg or warrant.

As the law stands, the owner of a vehicle is deemed liable for that vehicle when it is in a public place. I'm okay with parking wardens tagging expired WoF and licence labels, as I have the sense to keep mine current.

Cept again parking enforcement has done shit all to keep cars cycling, which is why WCC admit it's only there to make money... because it's only there to make money
This is also why alot of the meters going in now allow remote time top-up's

As the law stands what they're doing (or more the way they go about it) is illegal but that's another issue
My problem with it is they've made up a meaning for a word which in the real world makes no sense but suits their agenda & these wardens go far away from timed parking in to areas they should not be
We've had to write letters on behalf of customers on more than 1 occasion because we parked their vehicles on the road in an industrial area, far far away from any metered parking or hard to find parking, which we did due to space constraints in the workshop while their vehicles were in with us for repairs
A vehicle sitting on the side of the road without an engine running, with no keys, people or drivers in it, is NOT in operation; what a load of shit that made up meaning to a word that already has meaning that is!

[Jeeper]

Seatbelt really has nothing to do with anyone but me, if I don't want to wear one that should be upto me I'm the one going to suffer the effects; so yes "revenue collecting scum" as you say
Parking wardens provide a non-service, they do nothing that actually helps anyone so it's quite easy to think them also "revenue collecting scum"; hell WellyTown City Council even indirectly call them as such as they openly admit paid parking has nothing to do with moving people along, it's all about the money!

So you'll be happy to foot the health bill by yourself for your own recovery because you chose not to wear the seat belt? No claim on ACC or public health services?

[Scuba_Steve]

So you'll be happy to foot the health bill by yourself for your own recovery because you chose not to wear the seat belt? No claim on ACC or public health services?

I usually choose to wear a seatbelt; but given the stupidity of your argument with the high chance you ride an inherently dangerous form of transport (due to your presence on this forum) are you happy to foot the health bill by yourself for your own recovery because you choose a form of transport that is inherently dangerous & this fact is well know by pretty much everyone? No claim on ACC or public health services

Might be time to take care where you throw those stones, glass houses & all that

[Jeeper]

You chose to break the law and front the consequences. I chose to operate within the law and use what's available to me as a rego payer for my chosen mode of transport. Big difference between deliberately breaking the law versus operating within the legal parameters.

[Scuba_Steve]

You chose to break the law and front the consequences. I chose to operate within the law and use what's available to me as a rego payer for my chosen mode of transport. Big difference between deliberately breaking the law versus operating within the legal parameters.

I operate a couple vehicles I don't have to wear seatbelts in, I can choose if I want to; but this choice was only since a couple years back before that it was illegal for me to wear seatbelts in them
But hey use your "but I operate within the law" as validation that somehow your dangerous activity should be allowed while someone else's should not. Personal harm should be personal choice!

[scumdog]

Seatbelt really has nothing to do with anyone but me, if I don't want to wear one that should be upto me I'm the one going to suffer the effects; so yes "revenue collecting scum" as you say
Parking wardens provide a non-service, they do nothing that actually helps anyone so it's quite easy to think them also "revenue collecting scum"; hell WellyTown City Council even indirectly call them as such as they openly admit paid parking has nothing to do with moving people along, it's all about the money!

Do and think what you want - but if you don't wear a seatbelt when driving and get a ticket be sure to post about it on KB and blame 'the man'.

The sympathy you'll receive will be awesome!

[scumdog]

I operate a couple vehicles I don't have to wear seatbelts in, I can choose if I want to; but this choice was only since a couple years back before that it was illegal for me to wear seatbelts in them
But hey use your "but I operate within the law" as validation that somehow your dangerous activity should be allowed while someone else's should not. Personal harm should be personal choice!

Howzabout 'no seatbelt - no ACC'?

[Scuba_Steve]

Howzabout 'no seatbelt - no ACC'?

Shit I would have thought you'd be a bit better than that Scummy given you like a car where seatbelts were optional & ride an inherently dangerous vehicle. Would you be just as keen for "Ride a bike no ACC"?
Again until 2011? (I think it was) my Landy wasn't even allowed to have seatbelts thanks to NZTA's moronic rules & even now they're optional

Not wearing a seatbelt is about equal to riding a bike as far as safety goes, so all these bikers against personal choice for personal injury should probably take a long hard look at the inherently dangerous machine they've chosen to ride & maybee replace their glass house with something stronger before throwing stones

[FJRider]

Do and think what you want - but if you don't wear a seatbelt when driving and get a ticket be sure to post about it on KB and blame 'the man'.

The sympathy you'll receive will be awesome!

As I understood the law ... if seat-belts are fitted ... they must be worn. Regardless of the fact that the fitting them was optional ...



Or did I get it wrong ... again ... ???

[rastuscat]

As I understood the law ... if seat-belts are fitted ... they must be worn. Regardless of the fact that the fitting them was optional ...

Correct - a - mundo