Road toll - Police stupid obsession blaming speed

[granstar]

Most vehicles that straddle the centre line don't do it fully though. But if you feel getting prepared to fly over the top is the best thing to do good luck with that.

Missed the point.

[Luckylegs]

Its relative to the size of the company.

The beatiful people... the beatuful peeople!

Oh sorry, that wax a steeple, not company

[GrayWolf]

Speeding fines came down quite some time ago

I believe the UK is looking at new fine legislation, Speed over the limit related, BUT I understand the max fine could be 150% of your weekly income.

[awayatc]

I believe the UK is looking at new fine legislation, Speed over the limit related, BUT I understand the max fine could be 150% of your weekly income.

I believe that's what they do in Switzerland. .....
Great idea.

[Voltaire]

see, i think that's some horseshit. as with anything else in life, you acquire the skills to do shit effectively. displacement and HP are irrelevant, really.
I know 12 year olds i'd trust to drive my drunk ass home in a 6 litre v8,
and every time in auckland, i cringe that somehow these fuckwits have obtained a licence but I wouldn't trust them with my lawnmower, let alone the fucking 1.6lt turbo SUV wankfuck that they have "cos safety"
just have a look within 200kms of any town, they're lowering the speed limits - because these fuckwits take their traffic on holiday, and still drive into each other! and that's fuckall to do with youth. though obviously lacking the education/experience to handle their shit effectively

Lawnmower is about a near as you get to a motorcycle

Auckland blah blah blah.... stay away it if offends you so much

[granstar]

Lawnmower is about a near as you get to a motorcycle

Auckland blah blah blah.... stay away it if offends you so much

Its not just any lawnmower, its Akzle's. Assurance here it is not only Auckland,(infact recently spent a few days there, I thought the drivers and roads were great), its countrywide all the way to Plum Duff (refer road toll).

[Voltaire]

Fit speed limiters to cars
some sort of phone jamming device
photo of a cemetery and your famiy on the dash,
actual photos and footage of road carnage instead of nice policeman telling naughty drivers off.
Make the centre line so you can't cross it,
ensure trucks, campervans, caravans , trailers only use left lanes.

Make people resit licences like AU after so many years.

[granstar]

Fit speed limiters to cars Dangerous, you need enough power ( despite the law) to pass safely.Are we still obsessed that the road toll is all about speed, i'm tending to incompetence to drive at any speed is the problem?
some sort of phone jamming device Up the arse of any user!
photo of a cemetery and your family on the dash, I look out the window and see a cemetery all day, a family pic.., a picture of a sheep is easy enough, but be distracting.
actual photos and footage of road carnage instead of nice policeman telling naughty drivers off.
Like cigarettes packet graphics has stopped smoking hasn't it.
Make the centre line so you can't cross it,
Um how, good idea it would stop the fappers who ignore the yellow lines
ensure trucks, campervans, caravans , trailers only use left lanes.
Yeah let's employ cassindra to direct them that way. Why not slow down, take yer time, plan your travel allowing for traffic, and get there safely by sharing the road. Let the enforcers enforce.

Make people resit licences like AU after so many years.

I like most would fail, when there are/were any changes licenced drivers are not informed directly. A small informative test when renewing licence perhaps, at the more regular W.O.F where they could are informed of any changes to the code ( of course overseas visitors and illegal drivers will miss this), likely explains why the big confusion with roundabouts and indicating. Of course ignorance is not an excuse, but it is a reality.

[riffer]

The single biggest difference that could be made to the road toll is to put a barrier down the centreline of every major road in this country. The last government was offered this opportunity about 8 years ago, and failed to take it up, although the cost of it was similar to the tax cuts they offered the highest tax bracket.

There are some drivers that should not have licences. It would be good to see Police be given the opportunity to send people back to resit their licence. Give them, say, four weeks to resit their licence, and if they cannot pass they cannot drive. Have all cars fitted with a device that needs a drivers licence to be inserted into it to allow it to run. Use the technology we have with smart credit cards. As a failsafe use a retinal scan device to ensure the potential driver is the actual holder of the licence. Also have cars fitted with GPS devices that automatically send back information on driving habits back to a central repository and have the ability to deactivate the licence if driving is bad enough.

All of these measures could be achieved now - we have the money, and we have the technology.

Would the public stand for it?

Hell no.

[granstar]

The single biggest difference that could be made to the road toll is to put a barrier down the centreline of every major road in this country. There is only 1 - state highway 1, do all prangs occur on it, no, would only stop head ons, traffic teetering on right of centre are as big a problem when following. The last government was offered this opportunity about 8 years ago, and failed to take it up, although the cost of it was similar to the tax cuts they offered the highest tax bracket.

There are some drivers that should not have licences. It would be good to see Police be given the opportunity to send people back to resit their licence They do, after disqualification . Give them, say, four weeks to resit their licence, and if they cannot pass they cannot drive. Have all cars fitted with a device that needs a drivers licence to be inserted into it to allow it to run Tell me where on my vintage bike that will happen? . Use the technology we have with smart credit cards said . As a failsafe use a retinal scan device to ensure the potential driver is the actual holder of the licence and blind drunk . Also have cars fitted with GPS devices that automatically send back information on driving habits back to a central repository and have the ability to deactivate the licence if driving is bad enough. So you are riding, take some evasive action to avoid death because of some idjot, and your licence gets cut up?

All of these measures could be achieved now - we have the money, and we have the technology. We...excited about the new government?

Would the public stand for it?

Hell no.

No brainer, these thoughts may directed at those in enforcement to be heard, copy paste to an MP.

[Akzle]

The single biggest difference that could be made to the road toll is to put a barrier down the centreline of every major road in this country. The last government was offered this opportunity about 8 years ago, and failed to take it up, although the cost of it was similar to the tax cuts they offered the highest tax bracket.

There are some drivers that should not have licences. It would be good to see Police be given the opportunity to send people back to resit their licence. Give them, say, four weeks to resit their licence, and if they cannot pass they cannot drive. Have all cars fitted with a device that needs a drivers licence to be inserted into it to allow it to run. Use the technology we have with smart credit cards. As a failsafe use a retinal scan device to ensure the potential driver is the actual holder of the licence. Also have cars fitted with GPS devices that automatically send back information on driving habits back to a central repository and have the ability to deactivate the licence if driving is bad enough.

All of these measures could be achieved now - we have the money, and we have the technology.

Would the public stand for it?

Hell no.

and you sir, may fuck in the off direction.

[Kickaha]

Auckland blah blah blah.... stay away it if offends you so much

I try to get no closer than HD/Pokeno

Also have cars fitted with GPS devices that automatically send back information on driving habits back to a central repository and have the ability to deactivate the licence if driving is bad enough.

I feel like punching you in the throat just for thinking that one up, although you did only say cars

[FJRider]

In NZ the courts decide the amount of damages to be awarded instead for industrial accidents but why should they be so much higher for industrial accidents when exactly the same pain and death can occur in road accidents?

Under ACC you cannot sue the employer. Police charge the employer ... just as Police charge motorists that injure people. The Courts can award damages/reparation ... if they choose to.

[AllanB]

Fit speed limiters to cars
some sort of phone jamming device
photo of a cemetery and your famiy on the dash,
actual photos and footage of road carnage instead of nice policeman telling naughty drivers off.
Make the centre line so you can't cross it,
ensure trucks, campervans, caravans , trailers only use left lanes.

Make people resit licences like AU after so many years.

I have often wondered about the speed limiter thing - very very easy on anything with a computer.

So lets pretend it gets passed - how will the face of NZ vehicles change, lets face it what's the point of a supersport thou if it's limited to (say) 130?
Will we look elsewhere for our rides? Big cruisers maybe and midweight all purpose bikes? Something like Suzukis old GSX1400, and the Honda thou retro thing may be more suitable.

[AllanB]

Interesting weekend on the road down here - a trip to Dunedin in the car on Friday afternoon to load up and run back up Saturday with my daughter (also bringing her car back). Uneventful on the way down - there was a rush of ambos and cops in Oamarau - turns out a three car crash (and death). Hmmm must have missed the incident behind me my minutes ....

On the way back following daughter and Mrs B a cock in a orange Manaro (new one) tailgating me - passes with some gutso (hey mate it's smoking a lot ......) and then rides maybe three meters off my daughter tail for some kms before passing like a knob.

Said orange driver was seen about ten kms up on the side of the road getting a ticket from the police. Sure enough fifteen minutes later the arse-tailing and passing was repeated.

Conclusion. How do you legislate against the slow learner? You won't - he was no doubt slagging off the police for the rest of the weekend.

Side note - that last Commy Manaro - just does not look right.