Road toll - Police stupid obsession blaming speed

**Murray** · 12th February 2018, 19:51

Originally Posted by husaberg

I take that as a no then.
Every notice how people who are prepared have all the time in the world.
Or how a gifted sports player has time to consider options before passing kicking or running, yet a mediocre one just panics does something stupid or just gets smashed. Deer in the headlights.

Great analogy. But Cassina will only get as far as the anal bit

**malcy25** · 12th February 2018, 19:51

Originally Posted by cassina

Ever heard of shit happening before you have the time to do anything? I bet not and I bet your riding school would never believe shit could happen so fast too.

Haha, and you were advocating ACCELERATING into it......and further reducing the available time to do something about it. It's. It not luck that you have survived this long. And if ain't skill either. Rather that the Stars have not lined up.....yet.

**Voltaire** · 12th February 2018, 20:01

" Should have gone to riding school"

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**husaberg** · 12th February 2018, 20:08

Originally Posted by cassina

It improves your luck but only if you do a centre line hug to get as far from it when it pulls out as you can.

I think you need to get some new trolling material

**malcy25** · 12th February 2018, 20:12

Originally Posted by cassina

It improves your luck but only if you do a centre line hug to get as far from it when it pulls out as you can.

And up into the path of the car coming the other way that just drifted over the centreline while they send that text.....boy that was lucky. 😆

**Woodman** · 12th February 2018, 20:32

Originally Posted by cassina

Or into the bus by placing false trust that you you have been seen by the driver.

Or into the bus at a faster speed because you accelerated even though you know the bus driver may not have seen you.

**malcy25** · 12th February 2018, 20:38

Originally Posted by cassina

Or into the bus by Accelerating into the back of it.

Fixed it for you.

**VFR400R** · 13th February 2018, 09:37

I think cassina and Clive Matthew-Wilson (ref http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=262860) should be locked in a room together with a big stick each. Once the dust settles Mr Matthew-Wilson should have to ride a motorbike for daily transport (in Auckland during peak [corrected from my error of using peek earlier - doh] hour every day, in all weather conditions) for at least 12 months and cassina can should have to do some rider training then provide feedback about its usefulness. cassina yes luck can and at times does come into avoiding an incident, much like sometime things are completely unavoidable (and an accident will occur) however Risk levels you can control.

Riding a motorbike you are at great Risk of getting injured in the event of an accident (fact - you can't deny that)
Wearing the correct protective gear reduces the level on injury for the same type if impact/accident without that protect gear (there are many examples of this on the interwebs - if you need reference I will spend the extra 10 minutes of my life looking them up for you)
Defensive riding/knowing your surrounding/spatial awareness (thing you can learn....luck does not coming into play with these skills) will also reduce the Risk if you can be more prepared in collision avoidance.
Speed yes we love to ride a motorbike and there is that exhilarating feeling you get when going fast (this does not just apply to motorbikes – ask all those that speed in cars) however another fact coming. The slower the impact the less forces involved = the lower the Risk of death or serious injury. Remember compared to other road users we are at the greatest level of Risk to be injured (other than cyclist – who basically have no form of protective anything – their helmet are crap, clothing will not stop anything in the event of an accident on the open road – at open road speeds)

I have one question for you cassina.

Have to lived in Auckland?

Ok I lied a few questions.

Have you daily commuted in Auckland on a motorbike?

Years ago I did a rider training and this did teach me things that I did not know or was not aware of previously. As a result I did change my riding habits, I now always ride with 2 finger over both the clutch and brakes ready to brake at anytime when cars decide to change lanes without

Checking correctly, other than that quick glance at the gap they are going for (reads don’t see other road uses at all let alone a motorcycle).
Indicating – and only doing so after they are ½ way into the other lane – if at all.

This is were those learned skills of Defensive riding/knowing your surrounding/spatial awareness come into play.

**pritch** · 13th February 2018, 09:51

Originally Posted by VFR400R

Mr Matthew-Wilson should have to ride a motorbike for daily transport (in Auckland during peek hour every day, in all weather conditions)

Peek hour? Sounds a bit voyeuristic. Is that a big thing up there in Auckland?

**VFR400R** · 13th February 2018, 10:10

Originally Posted by pritch

Peek hour? Sounds a bit voyeuristic. Is that a big thing up there in Auckland?

LOL you got me there incorrect use of the England language....that should have been "peak" doh and they are far enough away on the keyboard not to use that as an excuse....

**FJRider** · 13th February 2018, 11:30

Originally Posted by cassina

I ride with a finger over my brake too but did not need to go to riding school to learn that experience taught me instead.

If by experience you mean the number of crashes you've had ... you must be a slow learner. However ... by riding a little faster than you should ... and following closer than you should ... a finger on the brake lever leaves you little effective advantage when you need to stop.

**Woodman** · 13th February 2018, 11:33

Originally Posted by cassina

I ride with a finger over my brake too but did not need to go to riding school to learn that experience taught me instead. I have only riden a bike in Auckland on holiday once years ago.

But if you had gone to "riding school" you may have learned that years before your experience taught you that, and you may have avoided the collision with the bus/dog/car.

**malcy25** · 13th February 2018, 11:39

Originally Posted by cassina

I ride with a finger over my brake too but did not need to go to riding school to learn that experience taught me instead. I have only riden a bike in Auckland on holiday once years ago.

I'll just leave this here....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU