Road toll - Police stupid obsession blaming speed

[Murray]

Sorry to hang you in indefinite suspense but I dont have the time to waste to look back over them. There has been many not just in this thread.

Well show us where just in this thread as you have alluded too.

[Grumph]

No a much simpler system would be to jack up all fines as many are not high enough to motivate people to want to change their ways

What crap. I came across a guy a couple of years back who happily admitted to over $27,000 of outstanding traffic fines.
He was still driving despite being disqualified - and paying the fines at around $10 per week...
Once the total becomes more than you can ever pay, there is absolutely no incentive to stop doing what you're doing....
Sooner or later you'll get a period of lockup - and the debts will be cancelled.

And sometimes do. Though I do like to think that a sheep jumping off a bank into my chest and a drunk with no lights running me over at the exact moment I passed the end of a street are extreme outliers in terms of avoidable accidents.

I suspect you suffer from a bad case of personal magnetism, you have my admiration. I'll try and resist the pull....

[pete376403]

Waterview tunnel speed camera fines are nearly $1million in six weeks. Police Bullshit person Steve Greally says this shows people are going too fast. But they cant be going too fast or they would have been crashing at a horrendous rate - there's no horror stories on Stuff so I guess they haven't been happening.

[Scuba_Steve]

Waterview tunnel speed camera fines are nearly $1million in six weeks. Police Bullshit person Steve Greally says this shows people are going too fast. But they cant be going too fast or they would have been crashing at a horrendous rate - there's no horror stories on Stuff so I guess they haven't been happening.

I'm not saying it's about the money but...

[MD]

I rode through the town centre of Blenheim which reinforced my opening post that Police MUST focus on piss poor driving habits. It must be some magnetic core problem or atmospheric phenomenon that indicators do not function in Marlborough and drivers have no bloody idea how to navigate at round-a-bouts. But strangely cell phones still seemed to function while driving. None of these observations I made within minutes are hard for the Police to spot.

I want to repeat my last point earlier as this is what I take issue with.
Lets debunk the myth that speed can be detected and therefore that's what Police should [and do] focus on. Rubbish! If Joe Public can see these other offences occurring in front of us everyday, just by using plain old eyesight (no hi-tech expensive equipment required), then the argument that Police have no means of detecting and enforcing piss poor driving is nonsense.

I was sitting at a traffic light a year ago with a major Police station right on the corner. Three drivers went through the busy intersection holding phones to their dipshit faces yapping away knowing they were immune. Right in front of a Police station. I was so fucked off I pulled over and went in to the station to complain. Three dangerous drivers within seconds of each other a few metres from their front desk. Why were they ignoring it I asked. You have windows onto the intersection I said- look right out there, I pointed to help him understand where the intersection was. Opposite the station on the same corner is a Primary school. Lots of kiddies waiting to be struck down by some dickhead distracted with their more important text or tweet.
Yeah we know it's a problem was the reply. I said that doesn't explain why not one of the many officers in this building is doing anything about it? He said he'd pass my comments on to the team. I should have said the three were doing 59kph in the 50 zone and they would have sent out a 20 man SWAT team instantly.
Seriously maybe I should sit on the corner for 3 to 4 minutes and take some pics as evidence and shame them into action.

[gsxr]

What crap. I came across a guy a couple of years back who happily admitted to over $27,000 of outstanding traffic fines.
He was still driving despite being disqualified - and paying the fines at around $10 per week...
Once the total becomes more than you can ever pay, there is absolutely no incentive to stop doing what you're doing....
Sooner or later you'll get a period of lockup - and the debts will be cancelled.

I recently employed within the last month a guy on a casual basis.When I asked him to work a Saturday morning he declared he couldnt as he had PD. He had amassed close to $5000.00 of fines for various traffic offences including speeding . He was sentenced to 100 hours pd and fines were wiped. Not a bad hourly rate net.

[roogazza]

I recently employed within the last month a guy on a casual basis.When I asked him to work a Saturday morning he declared he couldnt as he had PD. He had amassed close to $5000.00 of fines for various traffic offences including speeding . He was sentenced to 100 hours pd and fines were wiped. Not a bad hourly rate net.

and I'll bet that the PD consists of Coffee Groups ?
(I've never done PD ,do they have to pick up rubbish, like at school ?)

[Laava]

and I'll bet that the PD consists of Coffee Groups ?
(I've never done PD ,do they have to pick up rubbish, like at school ?)

If you have basic skills and can negotiate, you can get the pd changed to community service. This means you can do the same hours, possibly at a better time to suit yourself, and do a job that helps the time go by and where you will be appreciated. Such as at a kindy or school or maybe council.

[jellywrestler]

I want to repeat my last point earlier as this is what I take issue with.
Lets debunk the myth that speed can be detected and therefore that's what Police should [and do] focus on. Rubbish! If Joe Public can see these other offences occurring in front of us everyday, just by using plain old eyesight (no hi-tech expensive equipment required), then the argument that Police have no means of detecting and enforcing piss poor driving is nonsense.

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fact is they charge someone with an offence then have to spend time in court watching the lawyers pick holes in them, reducing the charge, or getting it thrown out, when they'd rather be on the road. it's easy to click the button and send the paperwork off and keep on doing that with a speed machine.


cops should have cameras in their cars, pull people over, ticket them and let the courts view the evidence and get on with it

[Akzle]

fact is they charge someone with an offence then have to spend time in court watching the lawyers pick holes in them, reducing the charge, or getting it thrown out, when they'd rather be on the road. it's easy to click the button and send the paperwork off and keep on doing that with a speed machine.


cops should have cameras in their cars, pull people over, ticket them and let the courts view the evidence and get on with it

you realise how far behind the courts are at the moment, eh?

not to mention that's a very jewspensive way of going about shit. what, with all the jews involved.

if everyone argued their traffic infringement notices the jews would come to a grinding halt.

[roogazza]

If you have basic skills and can negotiate, you can get the pd changed to community service. This means you can do the same hours, possibly at a better time to suit yourself, and do a job that helps the time go by and where you will be appreciated. Such as at a kindy or school or maybe council.

As usual I was taking the piss ! But cheers for that info.
I'm long retired but worked at the other end of the scale,catching the baddies ! lol

[Akzle]

and I'll bet that the PD consists of Coffee Groups ?
(I've never done PD ,do they have to pick up rubbish, like at school ?)

it's a "waste of time" - as in, it wastes the crims time. which evidently the jews value more than the crims.Much like prison.

there's no "punishment" as such. it's not hard labour.

ahh, the system at work.


meanwhile recidivism in sweden...


vote akzle.

[scumdog]

I'm not saying it's about the money but...

Hahah, who cares - they get nothing from me!

[scumdog]

you realise how far behind the courts are at the moment, eh?

not to mention that's a very jewspensive way of going about shit. what, with all the jews involved.

if everyone argued their traffic infringement notices the jews would come to a grinding halt.

And all the working ones would lose a days pay sitting in court awaiting their chance to tell their "story".

And some would have to drive/ride 120km to do that.


And the jews would laugh...

[scumdog]

Lets debunk the myth that speed can be detected and therefore that's what Police should [and do] focus on. Rubbish! If Joe Public can see these other offences occurring in front of us everyday, just by using plain old eyesight (no hi-tech expensive equipment required), then the argument that Police have no means of detecting and enforcing piss poor driving is nonsense.

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Yes, people constantly drive poorly when marked cop cars are nearby..

I say cops should wear plain clothes and drive 1998 Corollas to catch the poor drivers unawares,,

(Then the Idolidleidylls of KB will scream 'entrapment')