SH22 protective gear test

[kerryg]

You could make it like SH16,with huge reflective signs on every corner,have a kiosk at each end selling a curve by curve booklet and instructional video.I'm with TDLV8,it's not a race track,you take is it comes - what worries me is as more sportsbikes use it at speed and keep crashing,one be be the inevatable,the All Seeing Eye will be directed to SH22....and once again a great road will be emancapated for the actions of a few.Not critising Sparkz at all,just that as a Ring Bearer I can feel the EYE.....

It's one of not-too-many routes in the Auckland region that are attractive to street bike riders and so it'll attract 'em. There is nothing to be done about that. Unless bikes are banned from it, it makes sense to think about mitigating the hazards, even if does involves putting pieces of uncooked meat on sticks.....

In partricular there are a couple of slow corners that have no signage. They would seem pretty good candidates for a warning sign

[Motu]

Common Motu you can do better than that mate

You could dish me out some bad rep - that would be more in character...you could even edit this post as you have done before.

[Motu]

It's one of not-too-many routes in the Auckland region that are attractive to street bike riders and so it'll attract 'em. There is nothing to be done about that. Unless bikes are banned from it, it makes sense to think about mitigating the hazards, even if does involves putting pieces of uncooked meat on sticks.....

In partricular there are a couple of slow corners that have no signage. They would seem pretty good candidates for a warning sign

The hazzard is the rider,NOT the road.

[Marmoot]

bad luck dude can you describe the corner a bit better?? not on an uphill bit with some NC30 and R1 bits in the gutter??

Put a fireblade on the list please. 1 year ago, Me.

[enigma51]

Good to hear you are okay sparkz thats the second time I heard of kevlar coming apart like that (NOT GOOD) hope the healing is quick.

And for those of you going on about its not race track blah blah blah blah blah shut the fuck up you where not there and dont known what realy happend if sparkz was exceeding the speed limit so be it dont tell me none of you have not done it before.

The poor guy had a crash which could have ended bad and it did not (which is awesome). Why is it that when ever anyone falls there is some assholes on here that go on and on about how should ride within your own capabilities and the road is not a race track blah blah get fucking life your are not that innocent WANKER.

Okay thats me now time for a or two

[sAsLEX]

Put a fireblade on the list please. 1 year ago, Me.

I remember just after that your helmet with the scars, come to think of it have you replaced it yet?

[Quasievil]

You could dish me out some bad rep - that would be more in character...you could even edit this post as you have done before.

Common old fella Im taking the piss, I agree with you, honestly I gave you some green rep hope thats ok grumpy

I thought your post was good ......... I know I need to move on from my gravel on 22 post, I need tobuild a bridge yeah..... OK built done forgoted

[Quasievil]

Have to admit I was around the back of Kawhia and had a moment coming around a corner with a hunk of shite on it, bike had a "see ya later" moment lucky I held it together otherwise it would be me with a fucked bike.

I think I will leave that road to the adventure boys.

[Motu]

And for those of you going on about its not race track blah blah blah blah blah shut the fuck up you where not there and dont known what realy happend if sparkz was exceeding the speed limit so be it dont tell me none of you have not done it before.

The poor guy had a crash which could have ended bad and it did not (which is awesome). Why is it that when ever anyone falls there is some assholes on here that go on and on about how should ride within your own capabilities and the road is not a race track blah blah get fucking life your are not that innocent WANKER.

I'm not critizising Sparkz,and Sparkz is not critizising the road,he acccepts total responsability for what happened...good on him.But others don't accept the responsability and want to blame the road,the conditions....anything but themselves.I'm certainly not innocent,and very possibly a wanker,but I learned a very long time ago to take responsability for my actions,take a look at what went wrong and learn by it.

A driver pulls out on a bike and says - ''I didn't see it...'' so it's the car drivers fault.


A bike takes a corner and crashes on gravel,roadworks or a tight corner and says - ''I didn't see it'' - so it's the roads fault,or the council's fault...obviously.

And no...I won't shut the fuck up.

[kerryg]

The hazzard is the rider,NOT the road.

Yes, there's some truth in that (riding within one's limits, reading the road and so on) but you can't mean that literally, surely, otherwise you appear to be arguing for the complete absence of warning signs. If all road-users consistently exercised care, patience, courtesy, alertness and commonsense etc etc many road signs, perhaps even traffic lights and lane markers etc would not be needed, not as much anyway, but in the real world we occasionally need a little help to stay out of trouble. Obviously there's a point at which it becomes ridiculous but not to sign-post low-speed corners in a 100km/hour area (as there are on SH22 in a couple of places) creates an unnecessary risk. Nearly all are signposted, some aren't. Therein lies the danger.

[Stroker Girl]

Hey Neil

Big bummer about your crash mate. Lucky for you I guess that you only got a few bruises to show for it. Really glad you are ok but shame about your poor FZR. Is it repairable or will it be off to the bike shops for a test riding session?

[Motu]

but you can't mean that literally, surely, otherwise you appear to be arguing for the complete absence of warning signs.

Come for a ride with me sometime - I will show you roads with a complete absence of road signs,I ride them fast....and safetly.All it takes is good roadcraft,using your eyes,using your brain.

[steved]

Yes, there's some truth in that (riding within one's limits, reading the road and so on) but you can't mean that literally, surely, otherwise you appear to be arguing for the complete absence of warning signs. If all road-users consistently exercised care, patience, courtesy, alertness and commonsense etc etc many road signs, perhaps even traffic lights and lane markers etc would not be needed, not as much anyway, but in the real world we occasionally need a little help to stay out of trouble. Obviously there's a point at which it becomes ridiculous but not to sign-post low-speed corners in a 100km/hour area (as there are on SH22 in a couple of places) creates an unnecessary risk. Nearly all are signposted, some aren't. Therein lies the danger.

The problem comes when you begin to expect warnings and signs and so on. Only the rider can look after themselves. It's just an attitude shift IMO.

[oldrider]

Hey Sparkz, sorry about your loss but really admire your attitude.

"Completely furcked my bike but what a great opportunity to test my safety gear."

I have often heard people ask the difference between an optimist and a pessimist?

You sir are surely an example of an optimist congratulations I salute you. Cheers John.

[Marmoot]

I remember just after that your helmet with the scars, come to think of it have you replaced it yet?

Forgive me Father for I have sinned.....no I haven't replaced my helmet.

Worse yet, it's been through 3 crashes, actually.