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    A sad tale, but a cautionary one.

    This is not my story to tell but if it causes someone to think?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/998...ers-to-be-safe

    Some of the more cretinous public comments are indicative of the standard of some of the driving in this country. Be careful out there.

    And best wishes to the rider for a successful recovery.
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    It would be interesting to get the scene maps and vehicle speeds and masses from say a years worth of serious bike crashes; then substitute the bike for a car.
    Now for every third or fourth crash place multiple passengers in the car. Now let’s recalculate the death and injury number.
    Because what’s happening is a motorist coming the other way makes a mistake and some poor bastard on a bike gets hit for being in wrong place at wrong time....
    Sad indictment on society the victim blaming in a case where the other persons actions were clearly the major if not all the factors of the crash...
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    39 pedestrians were killed last year, nearly as many as bikers. And only 11 of those were young enough to be innocent kids with no road sense. So where is the outcry about the costs of pedestrians to society???
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    It would seem that being at fault in a serious accident did not cause serious reflection and a change of lifestyle.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dai...ing-of-charges
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    39 pedestrians were killed last year, nearly as many as bikers. And only 11 of those were young enough to be innocent kids with no road sense. So where is the outcry about the costs of pedestrians to society???
    Can't charge them ACC for walking so the government is not interested .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    39 pedestrians were killed last year, nearly as many as bikers. And only 11 of those were young enough to be innocent kids with no road sense. So where is the outcry about the costs of pedestrians to society???
    How many of those pedestrians were walking in a legal or sensible fashion though?

    Manners Mall in Welly comes to mind, jay walker too busy looking at his/her phone gets hit by bus. Darwinism in action.

    Drunk staggering down the centre line in dark clothes after midnight on a country road, gets clobbered by a vehicle.

    39 pedestrians is a lot, but I'd love to see more of the context. How do you protect people from their own stupidity? Or more to the point, should we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    . How do you protect people from their own stupidity? Or more to the point, should we?
    no .

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    This is not my story to tell but if it causes someone to think?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/998...ers-to-be-safe

    Some of the more cretinous public comments are indicative of the standard of some of the driving in this country. Be careful out there.

    And best wishes to the rider for a successful recovery.
    respect to trevor for a good thought provoking way of putting things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    39 pedestrians were killed last year, nearly as many as bikers. And only 11 of those were young enough to be innocent kids with no road sense. So where is the outcry about the costs of pedestrians to society???
    Doesn't sell as many newspapers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    39 pedestrians were killed last year, nearly as many as bikers. And only 11 of those were young enough to be innocent kids with no road sense. So where is the outcry about the costs of pedestrians to society???
    Super unintentional fuckwit the third thinks speed was involved.......
    Opinions are like arseholes: Everybody has got one, but that doesn't mean you got to air it in public all the time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by russd7 View Post
    respect to trevor for a good thought provoking way of putting things.
    Absolutely. Some of the comments on stuff article are rather disheartening...


    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    Super unintentional fuckwit the third thinks speed was involved.......
    Speed was likely the prime culprit, for more speed on the part of the pedestrians may have prevented some of the accidents

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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    Super unintentional fuckwit the third thinks speed was involved.......
    Vaguebooking......
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Can't charge them ACC for walking so the government is not interested .........
    Never say never....

    I see a day under the J um Cinda regime where the zero carbon crap is fully implemented. People can no longer afford to pushbike, let alone own or hire an electric car as there's a thousand consumption taxes on everything.
    So people start walking everywhere. By now you cant buy a watch or phone that doesn't have an always on fitness/step tracker/gps and always on 6G cell connection. The extra calories burned means you need to eat more so you will pay more carbon tax to stop the beauracratic regime from consuming itself....
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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    How many of those pedestrians were walking in a legal or sensible fashion though?

    Manners Mall in Welly comes to mind, jay walker too busy looking at his/her phone gets hit by bus. Darwinism in action.

    Drunk staggering down the centre line in dark clothes after midnight on a country road, gets clobbered by a vehicle.

    39 pedestrians is a lot, but I'd love to see more of the context. How do you protect people from their own stupidity? Or more to the point, should we?
    And there you have the answer

    Yes we do protect people from their own stupidity, so they have no need to ever learn. Just last week, there was a report on the Darwin Award candidate whom died as a result of trying to deliberately cut through an electrical cable, with a pair of scissors. It wasn't a nice death, as the scissors fused into his had and even after he was dead, he was still 'live' - just not alive. We had another, a few weeks before, plugging her phone charger in to a mains socket, whilst in the bath. My electric shaver has an LED display and gives specific instructions to put the electrical item under a running tap to clean it. What is that teaching those whom do not know?

    These stupid accidents will become more and more common, as we continue to dumb down the populations of the earth, with non-sense technology, to prevent brains having to work.

    AND don't get me started on the shit4brains 'Flat Earth Society'. Apparently a super intelligent former England bowler is a member. His name sounds a little like 'FuckOff'

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    I've just read some of the public comments.

    Oh dear...

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