20 50 mineral oil

[gravediggerNZ]

curently running 20/50 motul mineral in my 2001 guzzi jackal. only got 2 litres,need 3, can i run any good quality 20/50 mineral oil please?

[gravediggerNZ]

curently running 20/50 motul mineral in my 2001 guzzi jackal. only got 2 litres,need 3, can i run any good quality 20/50 mineral oil please?

for clarification. all the shops are out of any 20/50 bike oil

[Woodman]

curently running 20/50 motul mineral in my 2001 guzzi jackal. only got 2 litres,need 3, can i run any good quality 20/50 mineral oil please?

Yes..............

[Akzle]

real men use single grade semi-synth

[gravediggerNZ]

real men use single grade semi-synth

your taking the piss?
real men understand the internals of their bike. this bike has a fibre bearing case on a INTERNAL shaFT( fuk knows why, its was discountinued 2004) that gets brittle with semi and synthetic oils. and is a major stripdown to replace.

[gravediggerNZ]

Yes..............

i thought so to. being dry clutch and seperate gearbox oil..

[AllanB]

Supercheap Auto local?


Try this one

http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/Prod...4-Litre/519021

[Akzle]

your taking the piss?
.

you must be new here...

[Old Steve]

First, I assume you mean an SAE 20W-50. The SAE developed the viscosity grade system for engine oils and as a courtesy the initials SAE are used to denote an engine oil or automotive gear oil viscosity grade. Then the viscosity grade is broken in two, the first grade has a W after it (0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W and 25W), this is the "Winter" grade or low temperature viscosity of the oil. The second grade has no alphabetical identification, this is the 'non-winter' grade, the high temperature viscosity, and comes in SAE 8, 12, 16, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 grades. So, any multigrade engine oil is identified as an SAE, winter grade with a 'W', hyphen, non-winter grade, ie. SAE 20W-50.

Secondly, any oil is identified by two characteristics, it's viscosity and it's performance specification. There are low performance SAE 20W-50 oils I would only use to oil the hinges on a farm gate. Look on the oil pack label for an identifier such as API SL, SM or SN. The American Petroleum Institute (API) has developed performance classifications for engine and automotive gear oils. The API S series is for Service station oils, for Spark ignition engines, for petrol engines (the C series is for Commercial oils, Compression ignition engines, diesel engines). The second letter indicates the performance of the oil, API SA was just straight oil used in the likes of the Model T, SN is the latest classification for modern cars with sophisticated exhaust treatment equipment. For best engine protection, look for an API SL, SM or SN engine oil. See what I did there as well, I included the letters 'API" as a mark of respect for the organisation which developed This engine oil classification system. A higher performance engine oil can be retroactively used in engines calling for a lower performance oil.

Actually Moto Guzzi recommended an API SG, CCMC G-4, SAE 10W-40 engine oil for the Jackal. CCMC was the organisation previous to the Association des Constructeurs Europeens d'Automobiles (ACEA, European Automobile Manufacturers' Association). So an API SL, SM or SN SAE 10W-40 engine oil would be suitable for top up.

There is also a Japanese Automotive Standards Organisation (JASO) classification that is commonly found on motorbike engine oils, JASO MA and MA-2 indicate the oil is not friction modified and is suitable for use in transmissions which share the engine oil and have wet clutches. The Jackal has a separate transmission and a dry clutch, so no need to worry about this. Incidentally, JASO MA and MA-2 are specifications that indicate that something (friction modification) is missing from the oil.

[gravediggerNZ]

thanks old steve. its deffinantly 20w50 in my manual for my 2001 jackal. ive gone with the penrite above .it has a 1200 ppm zinc content which is good and was great value today a repco. not that price is a point, its in and ill be out on it again tomorrow. i have seen desiel oil used as its a much higher qualityy oil. your knwledge is appreciatted. also a z418 filter from supercheap is a direct fit. so noore waiting for filters. I do need sump and tppet gaskets tho next.

[nzspokes]

First, I assume you mean an SAE 20W-50. The SAE developed the viscosity grade system for engine oils and as a courtesy the initials SAE are used to denote an engine oil or automotive gear oil viscosity grade. Then the viscosity grade is broken in two, the first grade has a W after it (0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W and 25W), this is the "Winter" grade or low temperature viscosity of the oil. The second grade has no alphabetical identification, this is the 'non-winter' grade, the high temperature viscosity, and comes in SAE 8, 12, 16, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 grades. So, any multigrade engine oil is identified as an SAE, winter grade with a 'W', hyphen, non-winter grade, ie. SAE 20W-50.

Secondly, any oil is identified by two characteristics, it's viscosity and it's performance specification. There are low performance SAE 20W-50 oils I would only use to oil the hinges on a farm gate. Look on the oil pack label for an identifier such as API SL, SM or SN. The American Petroleum Institute (API) has developed performance classifications for engine and automotive gear oils. The API S series is for Service station oils, for Spark ignition engines, for petrol engines (the C series is for Commercial oils, Compression ignition engines, diesel engines). The second letter indicates the performance of the oil, API SA was just straight oil used in the likes of the Model T, SN is the latest classification for modern cars with sophisticated exhaust treatment equipment. For best engine protection, look for an API SL, SM or SN engine oil. See what I did there as well, I included the letters 'API" as a mark of respect for the organisation which developed This engine oil classification system. A higher performance engine oil can be retroactively used in engines calling for a lower performance oil.

Actually Moto Guzzi recommended an API SG, CCMC G-4, SAE 10W-40 engine oil for the Jackal. CCMC was the organisation previous to the Association des Constructeurs Europeens d'Automobiles (ACEA, European Automobile Manufacturers' Association). So an API SL, SM or SN SAE 10W-40 engine oil would be suitable for top up.

There is also a Japanese Automotive Standards Organisation (JASO) classification that is commonly found on motorbike engine oils, JASO MA and MA-2 indicate the oil is not friction modified and is suitable for use in transmissions which share the engine oil and have wet clutches. The Jackal has a separate transmission and a dry clutch, so no need to worry about this. Incidentally, JASO MA and MA-2 are specifications that indicate that something (friction modification) is missing from the oil.

Hey Steve, what is zero weight oil about then? Ta

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[AllanB]

Hey Steve, what is zero weight oil about then? Ta

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It feels like water in the container when you shake it. All about fuel economy and meeting silly American ratings - thin oil means less friction with gives them a better economy rating.

[gravediggerNZ]

hmmm how long is a engine gon last on 0 oil.

[pritch]

The arrival of synthetics has changed the game somewhat. Some synthetics labelled, say 20w 50, would actually perform like 0w 50 but the manufacturers wouldn't put that on the packaging because people would assume - incorrectly - that the oil is too thin.

[pritch]

hmmm how long is a engine gon last on 0 oil.

There was an English engine tuner of bygone days raced a Triumph T100 on SAE 5 which is getting down there. Must've been like sewing machine oil or 3 in 1.