Call for motorcyclists to stop 'lane splitting' overtaking after 10 riders die in Jan

**FlangMasterJ** · 1st February 2018, 10:37

Originally Posted by cassina

I wonder how many of those overtaking deaths has been due to trying to keep up on a group ride. I noticed in the news at the weekend one of the riders killed was on a group ride from all the bikes parked at the crash scene.

Oh right, is this this guys schtick? The group ride thing?

**Woodman** · 1st February 2018, 10:43

Originally Posted by cassina

I wonder how many of those overtaking deaths has been due to trying to keep up on a group ride. I noticed in the news at the weekend one of the riders killed was on a group ride from all the bikes parked at the crash scene.

All of them cassina. Every single bike crash is the result of pressure to keep up on group rides. They should ban motorcyclists from riding in numbers of any more than one motorcycle otherwise there acc premiums will increase by the number of motorcycles each rider is caught riding with.
Even training rides should be banned because A) They are useless and B) They are technically group rides.

**Akzle** · 1st February 2018, 10:46

Originally Posted by Floppy disk

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What are your thoughts?

i often wonder if anyone checks what's been posted recently before starting a new thread.

ban cars. vote akzle.

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**Akzle** · 1st February 2018, 10:48

Originally Posted by cassina

I wonder how many of those overtaking deaths has been due to trying to keep up on a group ride. I noticed in the news at the weekend one of the riders killed was on a group ride from all the bikes parked at the crash scene.

you're a fuckwit

**WNJ** · 1st February 2018, 10:55

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**Mike.Gayner** · 1st February 2018, 11:17

Fuck off cassina.

**Voltaire** · 1st February 2018, 11:28

Originally Posted by cassina

You will note though the story says nothing about how many of the deaths were due to group riding but I think from what I have seen they need to start putting statistics out on whether crashes were group riding related or not.

Ring up Mike Hosking, he's the curmudgeon go to .

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**Swoop** · 1st February 2018, 12:58

Originally Posted by Floppy disk

Did you read the article in Stuff.

The regular level of utter shit from that "publication". Pure tripe and scaremongering to get a headline.

**Moi** · 1st February 2018, 13:11

Originally Posted by cassina

Maybe you need to get the NZTA to paint lane splitting lanes on the road then like they have done with cycle lanes. Just have them painted a different colour. I would not blame car drivers if they have not left a big enough gap in their lane for you to overtake. Maybe you could get the NZTA to widen all road lanes as well.

**Woodman** · 1st February 2018, 13:17

Originally Posted by cassina

You will note though the story says nothing about how many of the deaths were due to group riding but I think from what I have seen they need to start putting statistics out on whether crashes were group riding related or not.

Yes you are quite right cassina. Although, how will they differentiate group riding and traffic? I think that requires some serious thought.

**Akzle** · 1st February 2018, 14:06

Originally Posted by cassina

You will note though the story says nothing about how many of the deaths were due to group riding

yes that's right. another thread that had absolutely nothing to do with the shit you wank on about. but hell if that'd stop you.

you're a fuckwit.

**Akzle** · 1st February 2018, 14:17

Originally Posted by Ocean1

The road toll is a fucking miracle. How many overtaking procedures are completed every day without killing anyone?

The whole shock outrage thing is utterly asinine, and it's symptomatic of the sort of road rage induced imbecility that is completely immune to any form of rebuttal. And I hate the fact that this is simply the shape of our society, that ill informed memes are what drives actual policy.

The only possible response to any of this populist shit is a dignified anarchy. Fuck em.

vote akzle

**Akzle** · 1st February 2018, 14:18

Originally Posted by cassina

Maybe you need to get the NZTA to paint lane splitting lanes on the road then like they have done with cycle lanes. Just have them painted a different colour. I would not blame car drivers if they have not left a big enough gap in their lane for you to overtake. Maybe you could get the NZTA to widen all road lanes as well.

you're a fuckwit

**FJRider** · 1st February 2018, 16:09

Originally Posted by johcar

The way I read that item about $$$, gave me the impression that we are not paying our own way and are a financial burden to the hospital system. I suspect many more dollars are collected that expended...

So they would have you believe. The levy paid as part of (and added to) your vehicle(s) licensing fee's is not paid directly into the ACC bank account. The Consolidated Fund gets the dosh and ACC gets it's funding as needed from there.

There is NO bean counter in this country that can state how much is contributed to ACC by any one person into the Government coffers ... as each individual contributes via GST (and tax from their income [even those on welfare pay tax]) on their purchases whenever they buy from commercial outlets.

Some obviously then pay less than others. But I guess ... they get as much as they can from where they can. And want more.

MORE ... is (apparently) better ... for everybody.

Sadly ... those that pay less want the others to pay more to cover the shortfall. The amount of shortfall (or even if there IS a shortfall) depends on who you listen to ... or who is talking at the time.

Bottom line ... ACC is a Government Department funded from the Government account(s).

**FJRider** · 1st February 2018, 16:22

Originally Posted by cassina

Maybe you need to get the NZTA to paint lane splitting lanes on the road then like they have done with cycle lanes. Just have them painted a different colour. I would not blame car drivers if they have not left a big enough gap in their lane for you to overtake. Maybe you could get the NZTA to widen all road lanes as well.

Why not make the lanes more narrow and thus have room to put a motorcycle ONLY lane ... ???

All work funded by ACC ...