Lease/rent/hire a bike?

[Pound]

SO it's not really about actual competence then?

Exactly.

One could simply hold their 6R for 12 months, do ZERO actual riding (hence gaining no additional experience) and then still be able to apply for the 6F at the end of it.

[Pound]

Or if you can't be arsed to do it by the law of the land......


https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/new...-lose-licences

[release_the_bees]

Exactly.

One could simply hold their 6R for 12 months, do ZERO actual riding (hence gaining no additional experience) and then still be able to apply for the 6F at the end of it.

I actually know a guy who did that. He passed his learner's. Waited a couple of years, bought a bike and a couple of weeks later passed the restricted test and sold the bike. A couple of years later he bought another bike and passed the full test a couple of weeks later. Then he sold the bike.

I'm still not sure what the point of it all was.

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[Pound]

I'm still not sure what the point of it all was.

Indeed, and not to mention the severe lack of any real "seat time" leading to a potential "accident" due to lack of experience.

[release_the_bees]

Indeed, and not to mention the severe lack of any real "seat time" leading to a potential "accident" due to lack of experience.

Yeah. After he passed his full test, he was talking about getting an R1. It's probably for the best that it never happened.

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[neil.]

SO it's not really about actual competence then?

not at all. there are/were some providers that offered combined training / testing setups, which effectively let people complete all the testing in one go, then just wait for 12 months to hand in their certificate for the 6F, having ridden for a total of about 1 day.

basic handling test on the weekend, go into the AA on monday and do the theory = 6L
combined training course and 6R test in the morning, then 6F in the afternoon, all done, and potentially without even owning a bike.

[Ocean1]

not at all. there are/were some providers that offered combined training / testing setups, which effectively let people complete all the testing in one go, then just wait for 12 months to hand in their certificate for the 6F, having ridden for a total of about 1 day.

basic handling test on the weekend, go into the AA on monday and do the theory = 6L
combined training course and 6R test in the morning, then 6F in the afternoon, all done, and potentially without even owning a bike.

So, again, fuck all to do with actual competence.

Put 'em at the top of the waterfall and tell them you'll be in the maungatuk car park with their certificate of competence in 20 minutes.

[neil.]

So, again, fuck all to do with actual competence.

Put 'em at the top of the waterfall and tell them you'll be in the maungatuk car park with their certificate of competence in 20 minutes.

that's pretty much it. let em wobble around for a day then buy whatever they like, and afterwards wonder why they crashed.

[wallydog]

Give me a shout if you're still looking for a long term rental/buy back. I run a motorcycle hire company so may be able to help you out. :-)

[rastuscat]

So, again, fuck all to do with actual competence.

Put 'em at the top of the waterfall and tell them you'll be in the maungatuk car park with their certificate of competence in 20 minutes.

Failed another guy today doing his CBTA 6R. So did my boss.

If the CBTA process is applied well it encourages competence.

We do big debriefs after any test, pass ir fail, it's a learning process.

Unless corners get cut. Hence the recent rule change to stop peiple taking the piss.

[HEsch]

Give me a shout if you're still looking for a long term rental/buy back. I run a motorcycle hire company so may be able to help you out. :-)

Bugger, never saw this, or would have been in touch! I ended up with another SV650. Also lams, but cheaper, and less kms, than the one I had. ALMOST an 'upgrade' of sorts.


I failed 6F. One mean corner at an intersection, where the lines extend much further than you expect (and clearly I didn't look/see it). Instant fail for crossing solid lines - do not pass go, even though the rest of the test was absolutely fine.
Passed the next day

[KezzaCFC]

Bugger, never saw this, or would have been in touch! I ended up with another SV650. Also lams, but cheaper, and less kms, than the one I had. ALMOST an 'upgrade' of sorts.


I failed 6F. One mean corner at an intersection, where the lines extend much further than you expect (and clearly I didn't look/see it). Instant fail for crossing solid lines - do not pass go, even though the rest of the test was absolutely fine.
Passed the next day

I did my 6R in Drury through CBTA, in the bronze course he showed us an intersection you go through in your test. Pretty much if you go straight through it you fail as the double yellows are directly in front of you. To pass you had to basically swerve through a 1000mm gap between the double yellows..