Motorcycle Gangs

**Zed** · 16th March 2004, 20:59

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

You and Spud have something in common; the missionary zeal to convert we heathen sinners.
Lou

Yeah, and we both have our fair share of battles with the lost idolaters along the way... (no offense to any lost idolaters out there!)

**spudchucka** · 17th March 2004, 10:30

Yes, I suppose participation on such a site as ours by the powers that be could be seen by some as insubordinate!?

Unlikely.

Maybe you should carefully guard your online persona Spud!

Why?

**spudchucka** · 17th March 2004, 10:35

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

You and Spud have something in common; the missionary zeal to convert we heathen sinners.
Lou

Except of course that Zed wants to covert everyone and I have only generally challenged your opinions regarding the NZ constabulary.

I don't know if you are a sinner Lou but you are a good stirrer.

**spudchucka** · 18th March 2004, 15:57

Originally Posted by hearty dogg

Baa baa black sheep
Have you any nuts?
No sir, no sir
Black power sucks
Born in a kennel
Raised in a cell
We are the Mighty Mongrel Mob
Seig Fucking Heilundefined

Isn't it stupid how an ethnic group like the Mighty Moron Mob adopt insignia and phrases from Nazi Germany, the very regime that would have lined them up and had them shot just for smelling bad.

**Holy Roller** · 18th March 2004, 16:35

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Isn't it stupid how an ethnic group like the Mighty Moron Mob adopt insignia and phrases from Nazi Germany, the very regime that would have lined them up and had them shot just for smelling bad.

More likely because they arn't blue eyed and blond haired, the master race.

**RiderInBlack** · 18th March 2004, 21:29

Ya, it does worry me the number of my fellow bikers that instant on having a swazzsticker (don't know if that is spelt right) on them or their bikes. Can anyone explain that one? Cause I can not understand why anyone in their right mind could think that the Holocaust was a cool idea (or burning witches for that matter

).

**Lou Girardin** · 19th March 2004, 05:42

They know nothing about the Nazi period, they just wear Nazi regalia because they think it's cool and it upsets the establishment. But I would like to see how long gangs would have survived in those days. Probably as long as a train ride to Mathausen.
Lou

**marty** · 20th March 2004, 15:52

or the idiots that wear the white power south african swastika (the Triskelion) - usually ethnic gang members.....WTF is up with that? it has NO connection to ethnic gangs, apart from their cleansing. i just can't get my head around it. if they think they've got it hard, maybe they need to read the Diary of Anne Frank.

**MikeL** · 20th March 2004, 16:44

Unfortunately a liberal and democratic society has no choice but to tolerate such expressions of gross bad taste and historical ignorance, because to repress them would be to start travelling along the same road that led to Mauthausen..
Wearing a swastika communicates the unspoken message "I have the IQ of a retarded Neanderthal, the education of an Appalachian first-grader, and the sensitivity and social graces of a chimpanzee," but none of these is a crime.
I have some sympathy for those who advocate outlawing such displays on the grounds that they are an incitement to hatred, but it would be the thin end of the wedge.

**Two Smoker** · 20th March 2004, 16:48

Originally Posted by MikeL

Wearing a swastika communicates the unspoken message "I have the IQ of a retarded Neanderthal, the education of an Appalachian first-grader, and the sensitivity and social graces of a chimpanzee,"
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Well said MikeL

**Big Dog** · 24th March 2004, 17:31

Originally Posted by MikeL

Wearing a swastika communicates the unspoken message "I have the IQ of a retarded Neanderthal, the education of an Appalachian first-grader, and the sensitivity and social graces of a chimpanzee," but none of these is a crime.

I feel genuinely saddened by the fact that until the 1930's the swastika was a good luck thing in germany intended to signify the end of the crusades (the cross is broken to provide a wheel), and the freedom resulting.

It also saddens me to see that there are some people with such low IQ's that they are both ignorant to the hatred it represents and stupid enough to get it tatooed on their face.

**Motu** · 24th March 2004, 17:49

The swastika was originaly a Tibetan symbol that was reversed by the Nazis,or at least Hitler,he was into the occult - a good read is something called from memory ''The Occult Reich''.

**pete376403** · 24th March 2004, 17:58

Christian religion used the symbol as well. Christchurch cathedral has a line of them across the north wall of the nave http://www.christchurchcathedral.co....lfot_mural.htm
The link gives a possible meaning of the symbol

**El Dopa** · 24th March 2004, 21:05

Originally Posted by pete376403

Christian religion used the symbol as well. Christchurch cathedral has a line of them across the north wall of the nave http://www.christchurchcathedral.co....lfot_mural.htm
The link gives a possible meaning of the symbol

I've also seen them used as a surround for a mural in a temple in Malaysia, the mural depicting the old Chinese legend of monkey.

My understanding was that if it's rotating in a clockwise direction, this was an ancient good luck symbol, but the nazis reversed the direction when they adopted it, so it went anticlockwise, or against the sun. Now that it's such an emotive sign, most people wouldn't get as far as checking.....

There's a guy in Canada, known as 'swastika man' who has his body literally covered in swastika tatoos. Not a Nazi, but a nutcase who has made it his life mission to reclaim the symbol from the nazis.