Motorcycle Gangs

[Draco]

Interesting how many different interpretations of the same symbol.
Is it surprising the unwashed masses know no better?

Here, here. And isn't it a shame in this supposed age of cultural sensitivity that this subject even comes up.

[deeknow]

My experience with gang members - working in a gas station, middle of the day, 3 mobsters pull in, one enters shop, waits for other customers to leave before approaching counter...

I had a "mobster and Gas station experience" of my own a few years ago. I was in a car driven by a Maori friend of ours Wiki, who was a school teacher in Te Whaiti (tiny settlement between Murupara and Waikaremoana. Wiki pulls in to the gas station in Murupara and standing outside are these three staunch looking patched mob dudes.

Wiki (a not insignificantly sized woman) gets out of our car and approaches the gas station. As she passes the three guys (all in their 20's to 30's) they all kind of stand to attention, Wiki says "hello boys" ... and they all reply in unison in this high pitched un-manly squeel .... "Morning Mrs Robinson".

Turns our she had been their primary school teacher. Jeeze it was funny, of course, we didnt laugh about it till we were a few hundred yards down the road in the car again :-)

[James Deuce]

I had a "mobster and Gas station experience" of my own a few years ago. I was in a car driven by a Maori friend of ours Wiki, who was a school teacher in Te Whaiti (tiny settlement between Murupara and Waikaremoana. Wiki pulls in to the gas station in Murupara and standing outside are these three staunch looking patched mob dudes.

Wiki (a not insignificantly sized woman) gets out of our car and approaches the gas station. As she passes the three guys (all in their 20's to 30's) they all kind of stand to attention, Wiki says "hello boys" ... and they all reply in unison in this high pitched un-manly squeel .... "Morning Mrs Robinson".

Turns our she had been their primary school teacher. Jeeze it was funny, of course, we didnt laugh about it till we were a few hundred yards down the road in the car again :-)

Baaaaahahaaaahahahahaaaaaaaa (snort)!

Mate! I think I just wet myself.

[magnum]

hello,bp and mm are not biker gangs at all,gangs yes.most biker gangs have a distaste for jappas but for me its the enjoyment factor riding not what you ride.have had the occational gang biker give me the bird,i just give one back as if hes gonna catch me on his tractor!!most wont bother you unless you bother them,steve.go green.

[scumdog]

To "bunny" who seemed to think that certain catagories of bike riders had something to "prove" by riding/wearing certain gear, - I ride a '97 H-D Sportster 'S' (the nearest thing to a GT that H-D makes) and I wear a tasled leather jacket and have worn it for 11+ years.
I am a member of BRONZ, N.Z Deerstalker and N.Z. Hot Rod Association.
I wear/ride/belong what I WANT to with no thought of what I am trying to "prove" or because I am a "wannabe", I am over 50 years old and I don't have to "prove" myself to anyone (except the mrs but we'll leave that alone!).
I feel that "bunny" meant what he said at first but when the wave of non-agreement replies hit him he changed it to "just stirring" but those are just my thoughts.
I know gang and ex-gang members but don't "wear" that association with them like a badge to give me "cred" or prove myself.
The people I party with and go to rallies with are mature enough to ask how the ride went rather than "ya don't own one of those old tractors do you?" or "fuck mate, no-one wears tassles", only dick-heads say that and I dob't drink with dick-heads. :spudwhat:

[wkid_one]

One definition of a gang is such: 2 : a group of persons having informal and usually close social relations

Does this not imply that everytime you ride in a group - you are a 'gang'.

Just a thought.....don't place stereotypes and throw stones when you live in a glass house.

We are a 'gang' - by sheer virtue of congregation, similar interest, and numbers.

[Podo]

One definition of a gang is such: 2 : a group of persons having informal and usually close social relations

Does this not imply that everytime you ride in a group - you are a 'gang'.

Just a thought.....don't place stereotypes and throw stones when you live in a glass house.

We are a 'gang' - by sheer virtue of congregation, similar interest, and numbers.

Precisely, why do you think successive governments have not legislated against gangs, they would be outlawing themselves!

[KATWYN]

ive probably been on more of those charity runs than you have - been going to most of them since they started - trying to show bikers in a good light.

This must put you in the "old fart" catagory that you were talking about
earlier on?

[KATWYN]

My experience with gang members - working in a gas station, middle of the day, 3 mobsters pull in, one enters shop, waits for other customers to leave before approaching counter (methinks something is up here) - then says to me "how about you give me a packet of cigarettes or I will stab you" Now I thought for a moment, do I give him one lousy packet of cigarettes -probably the sensible thing..but being young and headstrong myself thought he was likely just trying to intimidate me, I mean all he wanted was one pack of cigarettes ??

I said "if youv'e got a knife, pull it out and you can have the whole till of money and all the cigarettes" - this brought a confused look on his face and he repated the question - I gave the same answer again. He looked dumbfounded that I was standing up to him ( I had a nice tyre lever under the counter ready for him if he really tried to stab me).

He gave me a funny look, a cross between disbelief that he was not getting what he wanted and embarrassment that a teenager was standing up to him. He walked out of the shop so I hit the security alert button, but they were gone before security came.

Now, my decision/actions may not have been the right ones, and it could have gotten ugly (if he actually had pulled the knife he could have had whatever he wanted).

This story just illustrates that a lot of gang members (and other bullies) rely on intimidation to get what they want.

Yea three weeks ago we were intimidated out of $150.00 by a guy. There was no knife or gun involved but you just knew he wasn't going to leave without the money....the police since asked us "why did you give him the money?" .....now we are really confused about procedure, the message we got from the police is "if you are not under physical apprehension, hold on to your money for dear life" :confused2

[pete376403]

Why? Its only money. Coming from a cop that is a piece of full-on stupid advice. When the cops can guarantee that there isn't a gun or knife in the persons pocket, that'll be the day I hold on to the money, until then, if I get mugged, they can have what ever they ask for.

[pete376403]

Precisely, why do you think successive governments have not legislated against gangs, they would be outlawing themselves!

Didn't the police refer to themselves as "New Zealands largest armed gang" at one time?

[Jackrat]

Didn't the police refer to themselves as "New Zealands largest armed gang" at one time?

Yeah that was Gideon Tait during the seventys.
He turned out to be a waste of space.

[Big Dog]

Yea three weeks ago we were intimidated out of $150.00 by a guy. There was no knife or gun involved but you just knew he wasn't going to leave without the money....the police since asked us "why did you give him the money?" .....now we are really confused about procedure, the message we got from the police is "if you are not under physical apprehension, hold on to your money for dear life" :confused2

Official policy from the police is to assume all firearms are loaded and that all violent offenders are armed.

[KATWYN]

Thanks for your comments. I think we will stick with the
status quo...and over look what that cop said to us.

I suppose cops can't be perfect in what they say and do.

[Big Dog]

Official policy from the police is to assume all firearms are loaded and that all violent offenders are armed.

You can get a handy little leaflet (they brought them round door to door after the pizza guy got shot) Called armed holdup safety. In it policy is clearly spelled out as stump up cos the police are not much help until after the fact. Pity most cops that respond to these types of calls have not read it. :eyepoke: