Motorcycle Gangs

[ching_ching]

that anyone who has a back patch is either a gang member or a wannabe gang member -

I disagree. They may just be advertising their club / group, not acting as a gang per se. You're generalisation is extreme.

I made the connection, between gangs, and old farts, but I didnt make the old farts wear a back patch. That was their choice. I am free to disagree with their choice.

You refer to the older generation as old farts. From this I presume a lack of at least a little respect. Maybe not enough kicks up the wazoo when you were young but I presume mind you...

Unless they wanted to be a staunch dude when they were young but were two wimpy to cut the mustard - now they want to PLAY at being a tuff dude.

If you think they were too wimpy when they were young then wearing a patch now when they're older, a bit slower to bob and weave, a bit unfit then when they were younger, then if they get in a stoush now they'd get laid out... you shouldn't be bringing up this point, this one is in your favour... don't worry about this bunnyrabbit.

I admit to being bigoted when it comes to that, but I feel anyone who wears a back patch does a disservice to all other bikers

Hmm... I agree and disagree. I agree with you that you're bigoted (you forgot to add asshole on the end by the way). But wearing a patch does not necessarily do a disservice to other bikers. Like I said before, their reason for wearing doesn't necessarily advertise themselves as being gang members per se.

You dont have to agree, you dont have to like it, I dont care.

I don't believe you don't care. You come across as being one of the most caring, sharing, touchy, feely people I've had the pleasure to listen to.

TO those who asked if I have Knowledge of gangs - yes. leave them alone wont bother you if you dont bother them.

Knowledge of gangs? Did a bunch of them kick the shit out of you because you're a bigot?

[Jackrat]

I have run into dozens of people like you over the years,All full of your own self importance but not much else.


not much else to me really - just a rider - just a winder of springs.

Im having a good time (wind wind wind) lets go - and yadda yadda yadda.

but it is one way of getting the number of posts up - like all you other dudes I really really really want to be on the top 10 list. or top ten hit list.

So why get upset over being called a troll.
We must all have a bit of it going on.
Cheers.

[MikeL]

not much else to me really - just a rider - just a winder of springs.

Im having a good time (wind wind wind) lets go - and yadda yadda yadda.

but it is one way of getting the number of posts up - like all you other dudes I really really really want to be on the top 10 list. or top ten hit list.

Is this the definition of a troll??

Enuf said.
Freedom of speech, self-expression, blah blah blah. But haven't you got something better to do??

[moko]

Here in the U.k. the patch clubs are pretty much a relic of the 70`s.There are still the Hells Angels and a couple of others kicking around and still doing their thing with the patches e.t.c. I`ll tell you a bit about what the situation is around my way(S.W. England)as I think it`s pretty much the same all over.Locally there are 2 clubs,Aquilla and Scorpio,most of the guys still hang out together but the members are still the older guys from way back,still ride bikes but they tend to be anything big and Japanese that isnt a race rep or a tourer.They`re few in number but mean tough bastards.Scorpio are bad bastards who mutated from a patch club to basically a criminal fraternity like a lot of clubs in this country,they rarely wear patches unless it`s a "Fuck You" to people they`ve got a beef with,and keep a very low profile since a major police bust about 10 years ago.They own pubs,clubs e.t.c and have been tied in with Columbian criminals.Although they`re relatively un-known they`ve got a fearsome rep and have seen off more than one of the better-known gangs,not good people to cross but keep very much to the shadows since the big bust.Aquilla were a big patch club,locally at least,Scorpio pretty much finished them off years back and even fairly recently there have been incidents with a guy ending up on a life-support system,guys threatened with guns e.t.c.Basically when the old die-hards fade away they`re gone.Nationally the situation is pretty much the same,the old guys linger on,patch clubs are definately a rarity now and mass ride-outs even more rare.Over here biking,and bikers,have lost the old anti-social hooligan image,more prevalent than patch clubs from the 50`s up to the 80`s were gangs of bikers who may well have done the boozing and brawling bit but without the fancy dress or the names.Back then you`d get the same kind of lads on bikes as now drive cars and fight at football matches,biking has got a whole new image.When I was in N.Z. I was suprised to find the reaction I got at times to wearing my bike jacket,i.e. got asked to take it off before being allowed into a pub e.t.c.,that was a bit of a throwback,here no-one would bat an eyelid.Not just bikers but we dont get the whole gang thing here as you have it,nearest used to be football hooligans but as with bikers they learned ages ago that you make yourself stick out then you get police hassle and ironically you`ll never see any serious soccer yob wearing club colours unless it`s an England invasion of some other country.
Oh yeah,we`ve got HOG here as well and they also seem to think the 70`s retro bad boy look is cool,basically they`re a bunch of wankers that have delusions of grandeur.If it wasn`t for the snotty attitudes they have then fair enough I`ve got no problems with anyone or what they dress like/do,some prat looks down his nose at me while looking like a Village People reject and I`m not going to be polite enough to hide the laughter.
Old bikers?Dont know what you call old but I`m nearly 46 and have been riding bikes in the shit Brit weather since I was 17.Average age of Brit bikers is 38,youngsters go for cars here now but those snazzy new-style scooters are massive and there`s kind of a biker gang thing there starting to build up,kind of hard to look tough when you`re an acne-riddled punk on a mobile hair-dryer but they try bless`em.Bikers here tend to be either leisure riders,i.e. rich gits who crash their Fireblades in the Summer,or cynical old bastards like me who`ve never wanted anything else.

[bondagebunny]

I have anything better to do - i drop in here when i check my mail - 3 4 times a day - some on you dudes live here - most of the time im out riding.
I dont think yo lot ever get out.

[bondagebunny]

what I was getting at

"Oh yeah,we`ve got HOG here as well and they also seem to think the 70`s retro bad boy look is cool,basically they`re a bunch of wankers that have delusions of grandeur.If it wasn`t for the snotty attitudes they have then fair enough I`ve got no problems with anyone or what they dress like/do,some prat looks down his nose at me while looking like a Village People reject and I`m not going to be polite enough to hide the laughter."

And I didnt write it - so now all you twonks have got someone else to go after.

still dont know what a troll is - but it sounds like - some one who has an opinion and is not afraid to express it despite the ravings of others who never answer the points made

Time for me to retire to the garage to drink piss, start up my bike , put on my colours and go out to raise some hell.

I tire of this thread and winding up the smae people over and over - thought I might get a wider reaction - but there you go, just the same old same old dominating people who comment and dominate all the other threads .

I see you dudes again when I thinnk of something else that might get a stir.
In the mean time thank you all for being so predictable .

[Lou Girardin]

"Oh yeah,we`ve got HOG here as well and they also seem to think the 70`s retro bad boy look is cool,basically they`re a bunch of wankers that have delusions of grandeur.If it wasn`t for the snotty attitudes they have then fair enough I`ve got no problems with anyone or what they dress like/do,some prat looks down his nose at me while looking like a Village People reject and I`m not going to be polite enough to hide the laughter."
:

I've got to agree
Lou

[moko]

In reply to Bondagebunny,if anyone wants to take issue with anything I write then fine,something he seems to have some kind of problem with.Same bunch of people all the time?first time I`ve posted for about 10 months,then when someone agrees with at least part of what he says,the bit Lou attributes to him above that I wrote and Lou also seems to agree with,he then buggers off going on about everyone having a go at him.
Seems to me like he dosnt realise that most people are bright enough to spot someone aiming to kick off an argument and someone speaking their mind.
Good thread so a shame he`s gone.When I started biking it was very much a "rebel" thing to do,the public were wary of anyone with a leather jacket,patch or no patch, whereas now,in the U.K at least,it`s turning more and more into a rich man`s hobby.

[merv]

"Oh yeah,we`ve got HOG here as well

So why can't you list where "here" is as I'm guessing the Translyvania thing is all shit?

[spudchucka]

This ha become a rather odd thread!!

I've only one thing to say and admit to having a biased opinion.

"Gang member = dickhead"

Stay away from the losers.

[moko]

So why can't you list where "here" is as I'm guessing the Translyvania thing is all shit?

Hey Merv,Bondagebunny quoted from my post but it seems to have been re-quoted and attributed to him by various people."Here" is U.K., as you`ll see from any of my posts,in my case.Where Bb is from I dont know,if he says Transylvania then who am I to argue?Be interesting to hear whether he knows where Transylvania is,no patch clubs there to my knowledge.

[Zed]

So why can't you list where "here" is as I'm guessing the Translyvania thing is all shit?

If you check out his/her public profile (BBunny that is) there is no personal information given whatsoever...I think this individual wants him/herself to remain anonymous to the other members for a reason! Maybe so he/she can just continue to slag people without receiving any personal repercussions! Maybe we are dealing with a gang member here on the run from the law? Very suspect if you ask me.

BBunny, how can you honestly expect us to take you seriously when you havn't been honest with us since you joined?


Zed

[Jackrat]

When Bbunny first joined the site,He/She gave His/Her location as Palm'y north and main Fav' bike as a moped,A puch scooter, I think it was.
I Think you will find He/She is not a biker at all,Just somebody with a chip against bikers.I mean not one positive comment on any thread He/She responded to,Then attacks a Nationaly respected MC club.
Anyway,Who's going on the West pac ride.See ya'll there.

[Motu]

This thread has been going for ages and I haven't had a go at it yet - The bondage boy seems to think it's his thread,but it was started by that other troll Zed.

You couldn't ride British bikes like I did through the 70s and halfway into the 80s without coming across the occasional gang member - it was their scene and we had to deal with them at times.They were fragmented amoungst themselves - there were the guys who were right into bikes,these were the ones we delt with.Bikes were their life and a bike gang was one way to imerse themselves totaly in bikes,they were excelent riders and some went on to become top engineers.Then there were the guys who were just in it for the image,an excuse to be a bad boy,be on the wrong side of the law...these were the ones to stay well away from,they rode a bike because they had to,not because they enjoyed riding.But there were some who were a mix of both,they were a bit of fun - from a distance - they played the image to the hilt,had a good time riding,partying,fighting.

The ethnic gangs....oh come on,let's stop the PC...they are Maori gangs,not Samoan,chinese OK?....have never really been bike gangs,although they did start out that way to some extent,but they were also very much into cars.The bike these days is just a symbol,and hey,some of them have nice bikes and take pride in them.

The violence,crime and drugs etc can never be condoned,this has no place in our society whether it involves gangs or not,but the imunity of gangs gives them too much power.These days our gangs are like the Mafia in the 20s.

I have to admit that some of my closest friends have been gang members or had close ties with them - but they are older than me and I met them when they had moved away from the gangs.Don't be too quick to judge some of these guys - you may have admired their riding on the race track or have been taught to ride by one.Or like me,it may be how you met your wife.

[Zed]

...it was started by that other troll Zed. ...I have to admit that some of my closest friends have been gang members or had close ties with them - but they are older than me and I met them when they had moved away from the gangs...

Thank you very much :sly: Now don't feed the trolls!

It's a good balance anyway to hear the viewpoint of an associate of ex-gang members like you Motu.


Zed