Motorcycle Gangs

[mangell6]

I like the new KIWIBIKER patches on the black t-shirts . . . . .

he he he he

[Timber020]

Most of the patched biker gangs or any gangs are just cowards, tough guys in a group who couldnt hack the real world. How many people are assaulted, robbed, murdered or raped every year by young guys earning their patch?

I know some older guys who were gang members who are good guys now, but then I also knew a guy who was a Nazi (and could be still wanted) who I could say the same thing about.

Like the police, a lawyer and artillery, all great things as long as they arent against you.

[Motu]

Like a pack of dogs,they gain strenghth will numbers....trouble is some dogs are mean all by themselves.Some people need to assemble in groups with others of similar interests,from playgroups to paedophiles,born agains to cannibals,sportsbikes to cruisers.....I don't like to join in with others,just me,myself and I are all we need.

[Redstar]

I have never had a problem with gangs and I think that left alone they tend to keep to themselfs I have two positive encounters !
kataia pub new years eve 1984 tripped a member up aciddentially and expected a thump but got a no worries bro! and a member of the filthy few stopped to offer a hand when my bike broke down. I dont agree that they can fortify headquarters and we all know that they survive on the drug and crime economy but all in all they dont affect my life.

[Zed]

Like a pack of dogs,they gain strenghth will numbers....trouble is some dogs are mean all by themselves.Some people need to assemble in groups with others of similar interests,from playgroups to paedophiles,born agains to cannibals,sportsbikes to cruisers.....I don't like to join in with others,just me,myself and I are all we need.

There is definately a need in every human heart to associate with others of a similar interest! The ones to watch out for are those who sit on the fence all of their lives and never commit to anything- they are deluded and become isolated to the point of becoming anti-social...maybe gang members are on to a good thing then, just like us born-again Jesus freaks, amen!


Zed

[Motu]

Thanks for the personality profile Zed,you got me down to a T.

[Jackrat]

There is definately a need in every human heart to associate with others of a similar interest! The ones to watch out for are those who sit on the fence all of their lives and never commit to anything- they are deluded and become isolated to the point of becoming anti-social...maybe gang members are on to a good thing then, just like us born-again Jesus freaks, amen!


Zed

Hey, I'm not a group person,But then if I need company I can always have a yarn with the voices in my head

[Zed]

Thanks for the personality profile Zed,you got me down to a T.

Hey, that wasn't necessarily aimed at you Motu, but 'if the shoe fits'...


Zed

[Zed]

Hey, I'm not a group person,But then if I need company I can always have a yarn with the voices in my head

Isn't talking to yourself one of the first signs of madness? Then again, I suppose you get better answers that way!



Zed

[Big Dog]

Most gang members I have met have been involved more as a replacement for a lack of social order than any need to be "seen".

I have only ever run in to the one "bad bugger", a prospect, He tried to roll me for my jacket in front of his boys, I figured I had nothing to gain so I stood up to give it to him. By the time I had it off there was just the receeding sound of three pairs of boots on the pavement..... and a hastily dropped knife.

There have been a couple of other times I have had to pretend I was not scared...


There has also been a few times they have come to my rescue.
1 Broken down in the middle of nowhere they replaced a snapped chain and gear lever. And refused payment saying just to make sure I never passed a strricken biker.(Magogs)

2 Picked me up hitching for gas, took me for gas and back to the bike. Again refused payment despite thirty bikes (Three stayed back to guard the bike) going 26kms to get gas. (Magogs)

3 Bouncing and a prospect threatened to come back with a gun because I told them no patches. Mate who was wearing the patch cuffed him one and told him not to be stupid.

In my expereince, limited as it is gang memebers are not a threat unless you give them a reason to be one. Prospects tend to be a worry as they have more machismo than brains...... as do most young men.

I think that if the Ulysess club is used responsibly by its members it can be a fountain of information, it can be a support group / network, it can be many things to many people. Until they start selling P (or other class a drugs) they will get no complaints from me. Those members I have met do a lot more for the image of motorcycling in NZ, than most individuals.

In conclusion (for those who found my ramblings difficult to follow), anything that encorages more people to give riding a go get's a . MC clubs are not bad, some of the members are. Gangs are not all bad, but they are not for me.

[merv]

I chuckle when I see Ulysses mentioned in this thread about gangs. Well I'm a Ulyssian and the only pre-requisite for membership is age and that you are a biker (though there has been a lot of argument lately about non-riders and membership). I can't say I have met any Ulyssians that would even vaguely fit the "threatening" category so just because some wear a "patch" on their back doesn't make them bad bastards. Most I would say are good down to earth every day people with an enthusiasm for bikes - probably not much different than subscribers to this forum except here there is no ageism and even the young people are allowed.

[Lou Girardin]

Isn't talking to yourself one of the first signs of madness? Then again, I suppose you get better answers that way!



Zed

Talking to yourself isn't a sign of madness. However, answering is!
Lou

[Jackrat]

Talking to yourself isn't a sign of madness. However, answering is!
Lou

Oh dear,How about arguing back an finding yourself out numbered

[Big Dog]

Talking to yourself isn't a sign of madness. However, answering is!
Lou

Nup answering is fine we all need to hear intelligent answers once in a while, for me the problem comes when you are surprised by the answers.

[Zed]

Travelling home north from a ride down the line today I saw approx 50+, mostly patched, bikers hooning past in the opposite direction. They were spread out in many small groups about 5-10mins apart fom eachother, maybe some convention or meeting? Anyway, coming through Huntly there was 1 x HP car & 2 x unmarked police cars with lights going mad who had pulled over 6 of these roughians and were interrogating them & looked to be issuing them tickets!? Because there were 3 coppers I assume there must may have been a possible chase or emergency callout?

I grinned as I slowed down to pass them...not that they could see my big smile through my tinted visor


Zed