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    Cheaper faster broadband soon

    About bloody time.

    Faster and cheaper broadband internet access is finally on its way and consumers could benefit by Christmas.

    The Commerce Commission yesterday cleared the way for increased competition among internet service providers by siding with many aspects of a TelstraClear application for access to Telecom's network.

    The commission ruled that Telecom will be required to offer wholesale internet access to resellers at the maximum speeds its equipment is capable of delivering, rather than continue to impose its own limits.



    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10349994

    All I need to unlimited usage and an upload speed to match my download speed and I could run KB from home.

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    I wouldn't hold your breath for too long there..

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    I am going to hold my breath, prices should come down.
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    and you'll drop dead. Eventually they will, but Telecom will drag their heals about it. And still restrict the crap out of it too. As far as standards go, at the moment, NZ is on par with Mexico and the like.. yay for us..

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    I hope this comes about in a timely manner.. but judging by past actions.. this will take its time.. and we'll see the benefits in a few years!
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    The Commerce Commission should split up Telecom and introduce more competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fart
    The Commerce Commission should split up Telecom and introduce more competition.
    Next you will be trying to tell us they shouldnt have sold it in the first place . . .


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    SpankMe I think you miss the point of that article.
    It has nothing to do with the public getting cheaper broadband at all.

    What it is, is the commissioner advertising to Telecom that he wishes to retire soon and that his retirement fund is insufficient. He is merely inviting them to top it up - or else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fart
    The Commerce Commission should split up Telecom and introduce more competition.
    That's call Local Loop Unbundling. The commision went thru all this last year. The recommendation was to unbundle. Paul Swain sat on his fat arse for a few weeks, then probably took some back hander off Telecom and said not to unbundle. But to concentrate on bitstream, which is just a pile of crap for NZ at the moment, and it's low quality BS at that.
    With the change in government, this could change. But, TCL is pulling out of certain areas anyway. Internet is still a go, don't need unbundling for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugjuice
    That's call Local Loop Unbundling. The commision went thru all this last year. The recommendation was to unbundle. Paul Swain sat on his fat arse for a few weeks, then probably took some back hander off Telecom and said not to unbundle. But to concentrate on bitstream, which is just a pile of crap for NZ at the moment, and it's low quality BS at that.
    With the change in government, this could change. But, TCL is pulling out of certain areas anyway. Internet is still a go, don't need unbundling for that.
    You guys seem to forget why they dragged there heals with unbundle thing. It will affect there share price and take a stab at who all has shares in telecom.
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    I don't care for the political mumbo jumbo. I want cheaper faster connection spoeeds at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma51
    You guys seem to forget why they dragged there heals with unbundle thing. It will affect there share price and take a stab at who all has shares in telecom.
    trust me, I don't forget why.. I deal with this crap almost every day, working for one of them
    And most of Telecoms mula goes straight off-shore too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankMe
    About bloody time.

    Faster and cheaper broadband internet access is finally on its way and consumers could benefit by Christmas.

    The Commerce Commission yesterday cleared the way for increased competition among internet service providers by siding with many aspects of a TelstraClear application for access to Telecom's network.

    The commission ruled that Telecom will be required to offer wholesale internet access to resellers at the maximum speeds its equipment is capable of delivering, rather than continue to impose its own limits.



    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10349994

    All I need to unlimited usage and an upload speed to match my download speed and I could run KB from home.
    hah... I'm still buggered... until smellycom upgrade the lines in our area (no way in hell) I can't get anything bar dailup....

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    People seem to misunderstand the article. It has nothing to do with cheaper broadband.

    Download speed is a ratio of upload speed. You could offer someone 25mbit/s download but they couldnt use it because they are limited by the 128k upload. Most they'd ever achieve is 3.5mbit download (how its currently configured). If they changed the ratio to 128k/7.5mbit (which the article is talking about), no-one would be able to use it because the upload speed wouldnt be able to cope.

    Remember, a TCP/IP packet (the way web data is formatted) thats sent requires a response to be received. So the number of packets you can bring down is limited to the number of responses you can send back.

    This is even more noticible in online games that use UDP (another internet protocol) in which the ratio is very critical for balance of play (ask any first person shooter player about lag).

    Telecon's network is very badly designed (the network designers must have been amatures). Its not capable of dealing with any sustainable capacity or end-user usage to any scale (other than basic web browsing). Basically they are using it to satisfy some government legislation and milk ARPU (average revenue per user).

    In fact, I wouldnt be suprised if people dont start seeing capacity related issues ocurring more and more frequently (and a lot more arguing by telecon as they try and resist the expense yet another upgrade is going to cost them).

    I've always wondered why shareholders invest in telecon, from a strategic teclo point of view, the company is dead in the water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper
    I don't care for the political mumbo jumbo. I want cheaper faster connection spoeeds at home.
    And possibly not capped and with the same speed in upload.
    Come on, Internet here is ridicolous. The only good thing about the monopoly is that it has cleared the way for the first wireless networks: Woosh and Gasp, for the lucky fews.

    I've read that Telstra has lost interest in expanding beyond the big cities. But local unbundling could make them rethink that. Still a long way to go though.

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