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    Legally pulling up on spot ahead of cycle marking at junctions

    So whats the legality of this MC parked ahead of the lycra spot at the junction as seen in the distance. Newtown Welly
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheshirecat View Post
    So whats the legality of this MC parked ahead of the lycra spot at the junction as seen in the distance. Newtown Welly
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    It would appear that, since their feet are already on the pegs, they're already moving.
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    Yep but I was told by a community cycle lane group, Get ride of Island Bay Cycle Lane, we could and it unenforceable

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheshirecat View Post
    Yep but I was told by a community cycle lane group, Get ride of Island Bay Cycle Lane, we could and it unenforceable
    OK, let's ignore the fact that the bike is probably moving off from the lights.

    Let's say the bike is stopped where it is shown in the photo - first, the bike is stopped on the pedestrian crossing which is a sure way to be liked by pedestrians. Plus there's something in the road code about not stopping on ped crossings.

    Also, has the bike legally entered the intersection against a red light as they have gone beyond the limit line beside the traffic light?

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    Many years ago probably not far from where that pic was taken, I saw a car stopped on a pedestrian crossing. The buzzer went for the peds and three, probably students, walked up and over the bonnet of the car wiithout breaking stride. I thought, "He won't do that again".

    In case anybody feels that is diverting attention from the point, I'd say in my defence that I'm buggad if I know what the point of the thread is. There appears to be a picture of a motorcycle riding past a pedestrian crossing?
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    not sure there is any actual law where you stop.Even a compulsory stop sign line is only a guide.But yeah stopping on a ped crossing will likely invite some attentiion from the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheshirecat View Post
    Yep but I was told by a community cycle lane group, Get ride of Island Bay Cycle Lane, we could and it unenforceable
    You can ride through it any time you like if the light is green for you. The area in question is for pedestrians to cross the street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    not sure there is any actual law where you stop.Even a compulsory stop sign line is only a guide.But yeah stopping on a ped crossing will likely invite some attentiion from the police
    No white stripes so not an an official pedestrian crossing. Pedestrian movement permission is controlled by the lights ... not an "As of right movement" with normal white striped pedestrian crossing rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheshirecat View Post
    Yep but I was told by a community cycle lane group, Get ride of Island Bay Cycle Lane, we could and it unenforceable
    No you can't. As always, refer to the Road User Rule -

    3.2 (5) While a steady red signal in the form of a disc is displayed or 2 alternately flashing red signals in the form of a disc are displayed,—
    (a) a driver of a vehicle facing the signal or signals must not enter the controlled area, but a cyclist may enter ahead of a marked vehicle limit line and stop behind a marked cycle limit line:

    While "controlled area" is not defined it would be safe to assume it is the area beyond the limit line, which is defined thus -

    Limit line means a line marked on the surface of the roadway to indicate the place where traffic is required to stop for the purpose of complying with a stop sign, give-way sign, pedestrian crossing, school crossing point, or traffic signal.

    Not sure what the precedent code would be for that but if enough people did it then pedestrians would rightly complain and then it would be enforced. The point of the advanced cycle boxes it to get cyclists to the front of the traffic. To then have traffic stopping in front of them defeats the whole purpose so then you would have them complaining as well.

    Can see why a community anti cycle lane group would suggest it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    OK, let's ignore the fact that the bike is probably moving off from the lights.
    On what grounds could you ignore it ... ??? the cyclist is already moved off from their stopping point and two pedestrians have started crossing the roadway in the foreground.

    A few lacking simple observational skills it seems ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    A few lacking simple observational skills it seems ...
    I think we all picked that, it was hypothetical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheshirecat View Post
    So whats the legality of this MC parked ahead of the lycra spot at the junction as seen in the distance.
    The important fact is that this photo is very valuable. It shows that psyclists' CAN come to a complete stop at a red light.

    Since a pedestrian is headed across in front of them, presumably the light is red.
    In the distance the light is presumably green and the motorcyclist is accelerating.

    Motorcycles are allowed to use green painted roadways around city areas.
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    I got bored and tuned out ....... as I age I find this special ability quite helpful in day to day life.

    Like today travelling south on the main road at open road speed I tuned out to the fucktard in the fucktard approved 4WD who saw fit to sit about three metres behind. Dude I had cruise control set at 110.

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    Three metres? You were lucky. I used to dream of having 3 metres clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post

    Motorcycles are allowed to use green painted roadways around city areas.
    Have you got a reference for that? I was having that argument with a scooterist whilst dressed in lycra a few months ago.
    Or is that a Wellington thing?

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