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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Here you go: Passing

    ... But, I suspect that there are too many NZ drivers/riders who are already confused about what they mean without getting into semantics...
    Obviously ... you are included in this group. It IS legal to CROSS them ...

    Just NOT for the purpose of overtaking ...

    I guess that's why they call them ... NO passing lines ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WALRUS View Post
    Ah, thanks Moi! That's such a good idea, so long as the rider does it safely and smartly.

    Cheers for sharing!

    I often have cars move to the left of the lane so I can slot through safely between them and the yellow center line. Clearly good bastards who see/hear me coming from behind them.

    Must be a joke in that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Obviously ... you are included in this group. It IS legal to CROSS them ...

    Just NOT for the purpose of overtaking ...

    I guess that's why they call them ... NO passing lines ...
    Considering that "passing" and "overtaking" are not the same, those yellow lines could be called "no overtaking lines" rather than "no passing lines"...
    Last edited by Moi; 28th August 2018 at 21:17. Reason: Miss pell made an appearance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Considering that "passing" and "overtaking" are not the same, those yellow lines should be called "no overtaking lines" rather than "no passing lines"...
    New Zealand Transport Agency Legislation as it is written ... No mention of overtaking there ...

    Passing
    Many serious crashes on New Zealand roads are caused by dangerous passing.

    To safely pass another vehicle, you need to be extremely careful. You need to have a clear view of the road ahead, to make sure you can finish passing safely. You must also pay close attention to the vehicle you are passing, in case it changes its course.

    Passing on the right
    Passing on the right can be dangerous, especially if you have to:

    change your path of travel
    enter a lane or part of the road used by oncoming vehicles.
    Before passing, always ask yourself 'is it really necessary to pass?' Don't pass just because you are feeling impatient with the car in front – that's often when crashes happen.

    If you do decide to pass, follow the rules shown below.

    Before you pass:

    make sure you will be able to see at least 100 metres of clear road ahead of you once you have finished passing - if not, don't pass
    look well ahead to make sure there are no vehicles coming towards you
    look behind to make sure there are no vehicles passing you
    signal right for at least three seconds before moving out to pass.
    Before pulling in front of a vehicle you have passed:

    make sure you can see the vehicle in your rear view mirror
    signal left for at least three seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    I often have cars move to the left of the lane so I can slot through safely between them and the yellow center line. Clearly good bastards who see/hear me coming from behind them.

    Must be a joke in that.....
    OR ... (Good) ones that use their mirrors ... I try to do that driving trucks (and cars too) and usually get a wave ...

    Putting the (high) headlight beam inline with their right hand side mirror helps ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    New Zealand Transport Agency Legislation as it is written ... No mention of overtaking there ...

    Passing
    Many serious crashes on New Zealand roads are caused by dangerous passing.

    To safely pass another vehicle, you need to be extremely careful. You need to have a clear view of the road ahead, to make sure you can finish passing safely. You must also pay close attention to the vehicle you are passing, in case it changes its course.

    Passing on the right
    Passing on the right can be dangerous, especially if you have to:

    change your path of travel
    enter a lane or part of the road used by oncoming vehicles.
    Before passing, always ask yourself 'is it really necessary to pass?' Don't pass just because you are feeling impatient with the car in front – that's often when crashes happen.

    If you do decide to pass, follow the rules shown below.

    Before you pass:

    make sure you will be able to see at least 100 metres of clear road ahead of you once you have finished passing - if not, don't pass
    look well ahead to make sure there are no vehicles coming towards you
    look behind to make sure there are no vehicles passing you
    signal right for at least three seconds before moving out to pass.
    Before pulling in front of a vehicle you have passed:

    make sure you can see the vehicle in your rear view mirror
    signal left for at least three seconds.
    Far out... I'm going to be passing so many cars tomorrow, starting with all the cars that I'll pass that are parked in the street as I drive to the corner... I'm passing them not overtaking them... and then there's not only the cars but also the trucks and buses that I'll pass as I drive past them because they are stopped at the side of the road - I'm guessing they are parked because there is often no driver in the vehicle... though for the bus it is different, the bus driver is there waiting for the passengers to get on...

    I'm going to have to be so careful that I don't indulge in any dangerous passing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Far out... I'm going to be passing so many cars tomorrow, starting with all the cars that I'll pass that are parked in the street as I drive to the corner... I'm passing them not overtaking them... and then there's not only the cars but also the trucks and buses that I'll pass as I drive past them because they are stopped at the side of the road - I'm guessing they are parked because there is often no driver in the vehicle... though for the bus it is different, the bus driver is there waiting for the passengers to get on...

    I'm going to have to be so careful that I don't indulge in any dangerous passing...
    I even PASS wind ... how cool is that ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Agreed. When I see comments about boring bikes I always wonder how they're being ridden.
    Usually ... not properly ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by neels View Post
    And yet when yellow lining the entire length of the road was proposed, it was stated that crossing the yellow lines to pass a cyclist was acceptable, so can you cross them or not?
    You only have to look at the Road User Rule to find out.

    2.9 Passing where roadway marked with no-passing line
    (1) This clause applies if a driver is at or approaching a portion of a roadway where the road controlling authority has, in accordance with any enactment, marked a no-passing line applying to traffic moving in the direction in which the driver is moving.
    (2) The driver must not pass or attempt to pass a motor vehicle or an animal-drawn vehicle moving in the same direction within the length of roadway on which the no-passing line is marked until the driver reaches the further end of the no-passing line, unless throughout the passing movement the driver keeps the vehicle wholly to the left of the no-passing line.

    Cyclists are not motor vehicles and they are not animal drawn therefore you can cross a no passing line to pass them. I suspect the intent is that you can straddle the line to get past them, unlike with a slow moving tractor where you would have to fully cross in to the opposite lane to get past. Buyer beware with that one.

    Like the original video though, motorbikes are exempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    You only have to look at the Road User Rule to find out.

    2.9 Passing where roadway marked with no-passing line
    (1) This clause applies if a driver is at or approaching a portion of a roadway where the road controlling authority has, in accordance with any enactment, marked a no-passing line applying to traffic moving in the direction in which the driver is moving.
    (2) The driver must not pass or attempt to pass a motor vehicle or an animal-drawn vehicle moving in the same direction within the length of roadway on which the no-passing line is marked until the driver reaches the further end of the no-passing line, unless throughout the passing movement the driver keeps the vehicle wholly to the left of the no-passing line.

    Cyclists are not motor vehicles and they are not animal drawn therefore you can cross a no passing line to pass them. I suspect the intent is that you can straddle the line to get past them, unlike with a slow moving tractor where you would have to fully cross in to the opposite lane to get past. Buyer beware with that one.

    Like the original video though, motorbikes are exempt.
    I had a quick look for that, useful to know, I drive up and down there reasonably often and usually encounter cyclists. Not so many animal-drawn vehicles so all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    ... Must be a joke in that.....
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    A bicycle is animal powered unless it is an electric assisted bike - does it become a motor cycle if and when the electric motor is used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    A bicycle is animal powered unless it is an electric assisted bike - does it become a motor cycle if and when the electric motor is used?
    While we like to rubbish the powers that be, and sometimes it is richly deserved, whatever they did in this case they seemingly did it well. In New York the police were confiscating electric bikes when they spotted them, but then the New York Police seem to fuck everything up.
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    Since when has it been double yellows there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    A bicycle is animal powered unless it is an electric assisted bike - does it become a motor cycle if and when the electric motor is used?
    If the electric motor is *capable* of outputting > 300W, yes, they need rego and a WOF. Even if you're tucked in and freewheeling down Dyers pass > speed limit.

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