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**husaberg** · 31st December 2018, 13:38

Originally Posted by Cadbury

While I'd love to join in on a Ducati slagging match just for S&G, I would offer that the belt drive on a Honda ST1100 has a 144,000km replacement interval. The superior Honda design uses single large idler sprockets for the cams, driving the DOHC through a gear drive system.

The design is i guess also non interference if the belt breaks i doubt the piston and valves will ever meet let alone fall in love and want to be joined together for ever then escape the confines of the cylinder head and cylinders.

**Voltaire** · 31st December 2018, 13:54

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

And that sums it up.
If you worked on stuff for a job, by the weekend, all you would want was a reliable low maintenance bike that didn't even have a chain to worry about.
Doesn't it bother that they are a bit of a pile of shit though? Good quality stuff doesn't need constant expensive fettling.

That explains why I have two dukes then, along with other assorted high maintenance vehicles

**sidecar bob** · 31st December 2018, 13:56

Originally Posted by Cadbury

While I'd love to join in on a Ducati slagging match just for S&G, I would offer that the belt drive on a Honda ST1100 has a 144,000km replacement interval. The superior Honda design uses single large idler sprockets for the cams, driving the DOHC through a gear drive system.

I'm not slagging them, if anything I have posted is incorrect then I'd be happy for someone to correct me.

**husaberg** · 31st December 2018, 14:21

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

I'm not slagging them, if anything I have posted is incorrect then I'd be happy for someone to correct me.

I know you are stiring but People buy Ducatis as they are riders bikes they stir the soul people also appreciate their idiosyncrasies or they are that smitten like a hot girlfrind they simply over look them.
Same reason people spend silly money on 1950's tech harleys and Endfeilds.
Ducati keeps to their own heritage and followed a simple formula often at the cost of being competitive ie 90 degree v and Desmo dry clutch.
They couldn't compete on mass market so they made their own niche just as Guzzi and Harley did.
Of all the millions Hondas made how many have a genuine cult following? Hawk/Bros RC30/NC30/35 CR500 Cb400F SOHC 750 CBX1000 MB/H100 CB1100R and Fireblade
Modern Triumph soon learned the same hence the twins and threes.
As Yamaha learned in the early 80's when they tried to take Honda on head to head you cant beat Honda at their own game you have to do something different.

**george formby** · 31st December 2018, 14:26

Ducati Rider, you can tell by the eyes.

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**sidecar bob** · 31st December 2018, 14:47

Originally Posted by husaberg

I know you are stiring but People buy Ducatis as they are riders bikes they stir the sole.

I know a bloke with an old bevel & it definitely stirs the sole, I've seen him kicking it over in the beating sun outside a crowded biker pub for ages.
He called my R100rs Purple Rain, I call his Ducati Purple Face.

**husaberg** · 31st December 2018, 15:27

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

I know a bloke with an old bevel & it definitely stirs the sole, I've seen him kicking it over in the beating sun outside a crowded biker pub for ages.
He called my R100rs Purple Rain, I call his Ducati Purple Face.

Out of interest just how wet is that cltch in the beemer

Bikes that stir the sole might explain the dirty old oiler you have hanging up in your house as well.

**sidecar bob** · 31st December 2018, 15:33

Originally Posted by husaberg

Out of interest just how wet is that cltch in the beemer

Bikes that stir the sole might explain the dirty old oiler you have hanging up in your house as well.

There's a difference between motorcycle dry clutch & automotive clutch.
Hey, that "dirty old oiler" is the cleanest bike I have.

**Voltaire** · 31st December 2018, 15:34

That’s where your going wrong, your getting your soles and souls mixed up, ah soles

, reminds me of the crap in float bowels thread

**husaberg** · 31st December 2018, 16:03

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

There's a difference between motorcycle dry clutch & automotive clutch.
Hey, that "dirty old oiler" is the cleanest bike I have.

The automotive dry clutch and the motor bike hey are just as dry as each other.
Even now some higher performance cars are going multiplate now ie slowly following bike practice
The dirty old oiler likely is full of Grease to stop the leaks.

ps here is a Triumph Trident Clutch notice the springs and plate how automotive of them.

**sidecar bob** · 31st December 2018, 16:28

Well whatever your take on it. Non motorcyclists don't look at me like my bike is fucked when I pull my clutch in at an intersection.

**OddDuck** · 31st December 2018, 17:28

Well, it sure sounds like a drier drum full of bolts when it's idling in neutral. Clutch pulled in, in gear, it's usually OK. The plates skimming usually keeps the tangs engaged so that way things don't tumble and make a racket.

Just for the record Bob, I agree, the dry clutch might have had good reasons to exist before but its a PITA now.

**pritch** · 31st December 2018, 17:45

Originally Posted by WALRUS

If I wanted something boring and easy, I'd have bought a Honda.

Having owned both Honda and Ducati, I became aware that Honda offer more and demand less. Even Ducati admit that. I usually agree with your posts, but anybody who finds a bike boring needs to look somewhere other than the bike to identify the problem.