ego writing a check my body can't cash.

[John]

* note to self.........do not shake buggy's hand*

YOU CAN SHAKE MY "HAND"

Dude it happens you will crash you will wake up, figure out what happened you learn something you keep riding like a nut till the next crash and learn something else, as they say the best way to learn is to find out from your mistakes just dont "learn" to much and you will be sweet.

Trust me I do stupid shit all the time, ask tristan O_O

I did it two times on thursday, found my bike can do over 210 on sh16, but hitting 2 laned bridges at those speeds throws your feet off the pegs, I learnt that the bike has potential to go faster, and the fact that harleys have no chance to keep up with a 250 sports, AND found that full opposite lock drifts are possible...

[SuperDave]

When you ride hard enough to get slappers/arsing out etc (or have bad tyre pressures ) then you will know all about it, is that possible in a 150 anyway? [slappers]. Just think about getting thrown at that oncoming car and what would happen when you hit it.

Well my rear lost it and went sideways for a while then regain so it was the starting of a highside I would assume. Not too sure though, all I remember is when it regained I was thrown all over the fucken show and I was trying hard to keep in a straight line with the steering whipping from one side to the other. Once the front let go I was screwed though.

So yep, tank slap is possible on the 150. Coming to think of it I had one hitting a slight ridge once going hard at around 130kph.

[flash]

im just annoyed you get to ride on wide open roads , i myself this afternoon went into the mountians near tepuke today, most of the roads are at best a car length wide with wire fences on each side and filled with hidden drive ways.
Also i got held up twice buy stupid farmers crossing there cows across the road at 2pm on a busy road on a saturday .
at last though i found a nice striaght and got my honda 250 enduro up to around 130-135, i could of gone faster but just when i hit 130 my fuel ran out .

p.s: anyone in tauranga (mount/tepuke way) know of some great places to ride (not on the main roads), those police scare me

[N4CR]

Well my rear lost it and went sideways for a while then regain so it was the starting of a highside I would assume. Not too sure though, all I remember is when it regained I was thrown all over the fucken show and I was trying hard to keep in a straight line with the steering whipping from one side to the other. Once the front let go I was screwed though.

So yep, tank slap is possible on the 150. Coming to think of it I had one hitting a slight ridge once going hard at around 130kph.

Yeah sounds like a highside mates with a slapper O_o... good effort mate, especially on a 150. I just thaught they were too small, and remembered reading someone saying tankslappers on 250's were impossible... 'oh yeah' LOL.

Trust me I do stupid shit all the time, ask tristan O_O

Yes you and gareth are right pricks at times Must be something to do with zxr's being so cool eh!


sorry for going off topic....

[Ixion]

Yeah sounds like a highside mates with a slapper O_o... good effort mate, especially on a 150. I just thaught they were too small, and remembered reading someone saying tankslappers on 250's were impossible... 'oh yeah' LOL.



Yes you and gareth are right pricks at times Must be something to do with zxr's being so cool eh!


sorry for going off topic....

Bullshit. i've had tank slappers on 180cc bikes. Any bike can do it, it's just easier to ride out the lighter the bike cos the induced forces are less.

[John]

Bullshit. i've had tank slappers on 180cc bikes. Any bike can do it, it's just easier to ride out the lighter the bike cos the induced forces are less.

I had a slapper on the scooter was funny as.. although I was doing wheelies

[SlowHand]

cheers for all the help. I'be just been getting the feeling that Im progressing/pushing things too fast, but then Im sure the learning curve will taper off. I'll really start worrying when I get rid of the last 1cm chicken stripes and still want to push it.

[FROSTY:Me]

You can get yaselt awfully fucked up on a 150 --those things are still 100mph plus bikes.
BLUNTLY--you could kill yaself on a 150--its that simple.
But matey you know that or you wouldn't have created the thread
If you must go exploring ya limits --and heck clearly thats what you are gonna do. Then at least put some control over the situation.
Repeating old advise here
Firstly --You should do the exploring limits thing on the racetrack
I know ya wont so heres next best
First off I'd find a quiet straight bit of road and practice fast braking--see how the bike reacts to different rider imput
Go find a bit of road you like -say 8 corners -ride up and down that bit of road slowly a couple of times -look at the surface see if theres loose gravel etc.
now just ride up and down this stretch of road and see what you can achieve -itll improve ya riding no end.
I would take someone with me and tell someone where you're going and how long ya intend to be

[ZorsT]

As others have said its only a 150 and the chances of gettng really fucked up are pretty low compared to bigger bikes and faster speeds.

You would be surprised at what a difference not wasting two strokes actually makes.

Inline4 250's aren't much faster. (and cost 5 times more)

I wonder if it would be POSSIBLE to overcook a corner on an RG150. It's so small and light, and with those little tyres, it should corner like a 125 bucket

It is very possible to overcook a corner on an RG150, i was scraping the peg and still running wide on a corner two weeks ago. There was only inches of road left for my wheels to use....

That slowed me down

[limbimtimwim]

I think Im getting big-headed lately, and Im afraid I might push things a bit too far and come off in the near future. Been riding 2weeks - about 1200kms all on open roads.
Any tips on telling my (sub?) conscious to settle down?

The fact you have realised you are about to overcook it is probably the most important and useful thing in curbing your agression. I imagine you will be trying to keep that in your head on furture rides.

[Quasievil]

I think Im getting big-headed lately, and Im afraid I might push things a bit too far and come off in the near future. Been riding 2weeks - about 1200kms all on open roads.

Any tips on telling my (sub?) conscious to settle down?

Yeah go to Rotten.com that should help a bit mate

[SuperDave]

You would be surprised at what a difference not wasting two strokes actually makes.

Inline4 250's aren't much faster. (and cost 5 times more)


It is very possible to overcook a corner on an RG150

Was not insulting the 150 or two strokes and was not really refering to the speed rather that they are a lot more nimble and a hell of a lot easier to get out of the shit in a bad corner - I know as I had an FXR prior to the ZXR and I gave it hell. It did happen on occasion that I thought I was screwed and going to overcook the corner but the little 150 never let me down and always came out it - albeit with me being a bit shaken.

[k14]

Dude... in that thin line between safe and dead is where the fun lies.

The only way to know what your limits truely are is to test them... just try to do it gradually... and somewhere where you can't hurt anyone else.

Well if you think that way you're an idiot and are going to kill yourself soon. Don't know how many times its been said but the road is not a race track. If you want to ride hard the road is not the place to do it, go to the track, thats the only solution.

[SlowHand]

FROSTY & k14 - I do plan to go to the track - just looking out for open days at the moment. I don't yet have the gear(ordered, but not here yet) and I read/heard that there's diff classes for experience there, so Im looking forward to getting my butt whooped, and being put back in my place!

[TonyB]

All I can say is thank Christ Frosty and K14 turned up and started making some sense. Can't hurt yourself on a 150?? WTF? Talk to the people who have broken wrists and collar bones on their bucket racers- people have broken their arms and, yes, even killed themselves on mountain bikes... and they have no CC's at all! You can most certainly hurt yourself on one of these things.

1,200 km of road experience is nothing. Shit I went for a quick ride on Thursday with Bren_chch and did just under 900k. 3/4 of your total. It is unlikely that you are pushing hard enough to upset the bike yet. At the moment, and for a LONG time to come, the biggest danger to you is YOU. At some point you are going to come up to a corner at a speed that the bike is easily capable of taking, but your survival reactions will take over- you will panic, think that you can't get round and then do everything that you're not supposed to. You will look where you don't want to go, you will tense up, roll off the throttle, grab the brakes, move your body away from the inside of the corner. If you are lucky you'll scrub off some speed without dropping it and wobble around. If you're not you'll end up face planting in whatever you happen to be looking at.

Even bikers who have been riding for YEARS still occasionally do this. I still do it. Shit I've seen Rossi do it. The point is that you have to gradually build up a knowledge of what your bike can and can't do so you are less likely to make this mistake. Most of us old farts HAD to learn this way. Luckily these days you don't have to. There are plenty of books on the subject of riding hard. There are also track based courses you can take. Get the books, watch the DVD's, take the courses and you'll shortcut years of lessons learned the hard way.