LTNZ recommends lowering speed limit on rural winding roads

[Brian d marge]

Actually have no problem with it ,,,Some roads in NZ are posted at 100 km/h but 50 is more than enough ...
But as for finding no roads in Nz that cannot withstand 110 ....WOW ...last time I was there ,,we were travelling towards Napier ...on a road that was straight ...empty and wide enough ,,,,Very straight in fact it was so boring you would have fallen asleep .
No the thing people over look I feel is free tax paid for public health the lower the speeds the lower the injurys sustained the bigger the savings in the health budget ,,,,its a win win for the government ... ...
WHY dont they just tell the truth ,.....ie we are a small country ,,,we are trying to lower the health budget , by lowering the accident or reducing the type of injury ....
I as a normal person would say ,,yup that makes sense ...as long as you dont go and pay the ceo a zilllion dollar pay packet ...saying its an international rate...

Stephen

[SlowHand]

most open roads, bar the straight and wide like Beemer mentioned, don't seem to have drivers that do over 80, I live on the open road as well, and everytime I do 100-110, I run into traffic very quickly, then have to suffer the fate of driving at 60 round corners, and 100ish on the straights.

If they are that worried, fit speed limiters to all vehicles, cost 400max, but we'd only have to get it done once - oh wait, they'd probably tax the thing, AND charge you like RUCs. VOTE FOR ME!!

[Kickaha]

How many of you complaining about the speed limits have voiced your concerns with the LTSA and pointed out there are a lot of roads capable of supporting 110kmh speed limits?

[spudchucka]

I must say, it does put me in mind of gas station attendants copping all the flak when head office shafts Joe Public yet again.

Like it or not, the law is the law- if you choose to flout it(as is your right as a free thinking individual) and you will wear the consequences. If you dont like it, A) move elsewhere (Germany and the like have 300 km/h roads I'm told)
B) Do your moaning to those it might make a difference to -ie Head Office

If that post was in any way intended for my benefit then you will have to re-phrase it before I can make any real sense of it.

[madboy]

Well considering I'm posting in a bike forum, so must put my bike hat on, what does lowering the speed limit matter? I already exceed the speed limit, I already pass cars and other road users travelling at a speed lower than me whenever I feel like it, I already get chased by pigs. What difference does this really make to me as a motorcyclist? None. A big fat ZIPPO!!

Considering I've seen just south of 270km/h on my speedo, on a public road (yes, I am the , I am out to rape murder and pillage) while chasing two other bikes that were pulling away from me (one 2-up), how the hell does the government think that particular stretch of road is unsafe at 110k?

It's as a cage driver that this bollocks pisses me off. Cos my boring family wagon doesn't quite have the power to weight ratio, width, length or massive brakes that my bike has - so I get stuck behind useless f***wits who think that exceeding the speed limit will kill them, so they must drive 10km/h SLOWER than the limit... and that must be true, cos the ad on the TV said so! Useless f***ing namby pamby nanny state c***smokers who can't solve a problem in any other way then the cheap way. Hey, and if you can increase the general tax take while you're at it, bonus. At least IRD are honest about it.

What the hell happened to individual responsibility? We are now living in a country where this concept has been dumbed down to the point that the government now must further infringe on our rights to exercise our common sense.

I've lost respect for this govt, and particularly their enforcers.

[WINJA]

With the speeds i do on widing back country roads, i dont think 10kmh is going to change very much...

SAME HERE THAT JUST MEANS ILL BE 210 OVER THE LIMIT INSTEAD OF 200

[Beemer]

What's the bet the first Wellington region road they target for this new speed change is the Rimutaka Hill road? Sure, it's not like you can do 100kph over the whole road, but it will target those riders who enjoy the road for a burst of speed.

No roads suitable for higher speeds in the whole of NZ? Not even the Dorkland motorway? Or the main road through the Wairarapa? Bullshit!

[zooter]

Cops aren't going to suddenly target twisty rural roads. If they wanted to they could catch a shit load of people speeding now by simply concentrating on those roads, a 10kph drop in the speed limit on these roads isn't going to change the way they operate.

BTW I'm opposed to this idea.

I think she might have left town but ehre was a girlie cop who used to do just that here. At the end of every month the local district commander issues an edict to go out and fill the month's ticket quota, laser guns come out in the usual hideaways and the unwary get pinged.

[Storm]

Spud- not aimed at you, just a general observation
ie- the coppers-you- will get abused by joe public (for enforcing the laws you swore to uphold) because the policymakers have changed them
The second part in short form reads:
go fast, get caught, pay fine, dont winge

[myvice]

:go fast, get caught, pay fine, dont winge

How about; Go fast, if your going to get caught, go faster, don’t get caught, don’t get a fine, don’t lose your licence, don’t lose your bike, don’t winge?
If you’re caught at 120kph, you are 30ks over the limit, you’re screwed!
I know people who PARK faster than 130!!!!!!

[riffer]

What's the bet the first Wellington region road they target for this new speed change is the Rimutaka Hill road? Sure, it's not like you can do 100kph over the whole road, but it will target those riders who enjoy the road for a burst of speed.

I would think you’d have a very hard time measuring the speed that most of us do on that road without causing a hazard to oncoming traffic. There is just no room to park a car on that road easily. Although they might just try. If a biker is killed by hitting a police car or by hitting the front pegs when he sees one on the other side of Jim’s corner and drifting across the road that may cause a bit of a stink though.

As for 100km/hr over the whole road, its nearly possible. As an average, its very likely.

A more obvious place to target would be over the “new improved Kaitokes”.

But it’s hardly a narrow windy road.

How about:

Middleton Road, between Johnsonville and Tawa (until the start of the year LSZ, now 70km/hr)

Makara Road (even Velox can't average 100km/hr on this road).

Moonshine Road

Whitemans Valley Hill Road

Crikey while we’re at it, how’s about Paremata Rd, Grays Rd, Paekakariki Hill (oops already done that), Haywards Hill, Akatarawa Rd...

[greenman]

There are already country roads about Hamilton that have been reduced to 80kph.

[Hailwood]

A more obvious place to target would be over the “new improved Kaitokes”.

But it’s hardly a narrow windy road.

How about:

Middleton Road, between Johnsonville and Tawa (until the start of the year LSZ, now 70km/hr)

Makara Road (even Velox can't average 100km/hr on this road).

Moonshine Road

Whitemans Valley Hill Road

Crikey while we’re at it, how’s about Paremata Rd, Grays Rd, Paekakariki Hill (oops already done that), Haywards Hill, Akatarawa Rd...

You are right about Kaitokes..thats just a matter of time before a speed camera or van or regular old HP car will be there somewhere.....wonders how many bikers would stop on the Rimutakas if waved over by Police?

[Toast]

One word Transit:

Fuckyou!!!

Ah, doesn't mean shit really, some 'guys I know' are already 80 over the current limit through known 65 corners anyway...agree with TS.

Kind of annoying that they're still getting away with the proven bullshit worldwide 'Speed Kills' campaign.

[avgas]

Mind due - winding rural roads??? Where are they again??? The fuckers keep cutting them up and making them straight.
Then they complain that everyone travels too fast.
fucks sake