LTNZ recommends lowering speed limit on rural winding roads

[inlinefour]

Don't think that it'd matter lowering the limit 10km/h, people are still going to do stupid things on the roads, drink n drive/ride, drive/ride tired, drive/ride outside the conditions. If they really think that it'll help then they have been sitting behind a desk far too long.

[Lou Girardin]

Considering I've seen just south of 270km/h on my speedo, on a public road (yes, I am the , I am out to rape murder and pillage) while chasing two other bikes that were pulling away from me (one 2-up), how the hell does the government think that particular stretch of road is unsafe at 110k?
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Two up? And you think risking someone else's life like that is a good thing?

[outlawtorn]

well good on them I say, lowering the speed limit by 10kph should be done everywhere, that will definetly put a stop to most if not all boy racer crashes and most other crashes involving a motorvehicle of some sort......NOT!!!

Once again these blundering fuckwits cannot see the forest for the trees!!!!

[madboy]

Two up? And you think risking someone else's life like that is a good thing?

Nope, I'm pointing out that the bike in front of me that was two-up was pulling away from me at the time, hence going faster than the indicated 270ish I was seeing. Besides, consenting adults.

The underlying thrust of my argument was that if it was nice and easy to crack 270 on THAT piece of road, then how is 110 unsafe on THAT piece of road, while 100 is deemed to be.

As for the Kaitokes - fellas, that'll be a gravy train for the HP. Passing lanes going uphill ending just on the crest, and you'll be at your maximum comfortable speed after passing whatever slower moving vehicles you were stuck behind through what's left of the twisties... leading into a nice open downhill stretch where you'll think it's perfectly safe to let the car just coast down the hill without applying the brakes (since there is no real corner anywhere in sight)... right into the man with the flouro vest and laser gun. The bikers at 200+ will be fine, it'll be the cage dwellers at 120 who'll be making up the quota.

[oldrider]

Mind due - winding rural roads??? Where are they again???

They are out there where I like to ride. Usually where Mr Plod is not!
A couple of months or so back I was minding my own business on a favourite piece of gravel road when I caught up to a utility. Hard to see who or what for the dust. Probably some cocky heading home.
I know the road well and sat behind momentarily until a safe to pass section came up then gunned it on and passed the ute. As the dust cleared the utility etc became quite clear complete with funny lights and paintwork.
I was committed to the task so proceeded as planned. I am not sure who was the most surprised the ute occupants or me.
These were not your average cockies coming home from town!
I hoped that the dust would make my ID even a little more difficult than theirs had been and twisted that thingy on the right as far as it would go and had one of my fastest trips across that (Safe) section of mountain road in a long time.
I was doing 140kph when I passed the ute!
Have to admit the adrenalin flowed fast and now that the mail time has lapsed, I am thinking that maybe they enjoyed the moment too because they were not adhering to the speed limit either. ( on those unsafe roads!)
It looks like Aunty Helen is determined to take away all our toys. Cheers John.

[Storm]

It looks like Aunty Helen is determined to take away all our toys. Cheers John.

The great lament of the masses. Oh well, Winnies back in, he'll be makeing the foreigners lives hell too, so at least we're all in the same boat

[Posh Tourer :P]

All dual carriageway (apart from bits with intersections every 100m) in the UK is 70mph (120-odd kmh). Not too many problems, and the sturcture of the roads are very similar to NZ's motorways. However, all HGVs (over 7.5T) are restricted to 60 on those areas, and 50 on single carriageways, enforced by recording equipment. Dunno what it is like in NZ for HGVs, but this seems to work well overall as a system.....

And we are worried about 110 (let alone 120) on our motorways?

[Speedracer]

All this means is that it's even easier to get your license suspended while passing.

Makara road was a heap of fun while I was in Wellington, I had trouble reaching 100k on that one. It was almost like there was no speed limit, so it didn't matter if you went fast or slow, you could go at your own pace guilt free.

[clint640]

All dual carriageway (apart from bits with intersections every 100m) in the UK is 70mph (120-odd kmh). Not too many problems, and the sturcture of the roads are very similar to NZ's motorways. However, all HGVs (over 7.5T) are restricted to 60 on those areas, and 50 on single carriageways, enforced by recording equipment. Dunno what it is like in NZ for HGVs, but this seems to work well overall as a system.....

And we are worried about 110 (let alone 120) on our motorways?

Yep, the LTSA probably couldn't find a road that was safe to do 110 on 'cos they didn't look any further than out the office window. Having just got back from europe I can report that there is no observable difference between most of NZ's motorways & many german autobahns. As if we needed any more proof that the LTSA have no bloody idea.

Cheers
Clint

[mouldy]

Yeah, Right. As the revenue from speeding tickets declines at 100, the only way to increase revenue is to lower the speed limit.

If their argument was genuinely for road safety then the maximum permitted speed would be walking pace, and every vehicle would have to be preceeded by a man carrying a red flag.

Look on the bright side , at least you'll be able to do twice the speed limit on a restricted jap import

[Brian d marge]

Dont we have umm a motoring org that looks out for the motorist ,,,,

isnt it called the AA ,,,in Britain the reason why some of these crap laws dont get passed is because there is a org called MAG and others who really take the fight to the dicks behind the desk,,,l

But on saying that ,,,the Bossu road is a 100 kph limit ( where the unimog rolled ) and On my My MX bike MAYBE I could do 100

No as I said brfore ...a responsible goevrnment ,,,ANY government ,,,has to run a tight ship ...keep the housekeeping money straight ( or no one lends them money anymore ,,,) ,,,and ,,,when ,,,A / a biker falls off they tend to cost more in the fixing up off ....B / those irresponsible young hoodlums ,,,only constitute 12 % of the population and are alway out having this thing called Fun ,,so never vote ....So like what do we care if we upset a few ......

But as for the fact there is no 110 roads in NZ ...If you are going to bullshit ...make it plausabe ,,,The average kiwi aint that stupid ...

I mean ..Colmans .. when questioned about the make up of the bike costs ...came straight out and was up front.... this is it ,
As a result The majority of people now trust and would be happy to do business with Colmans ...
LTSA on the other hand ,,came out with a Howler....and from now what ever they say people just file their comments in the ,...Tossers file ..I mean they couldnt hand out money in the street....without a howl of complaint .....
What they should of done is be blunt ,,,,Ya all drive like a bunch of Dicks and its costing us to much money ,,,so we are taking your toys away untill you learn to play with them properly .....

OR ...this could be part of a plan to introduce private heath insurance ,,,as in well under free health care this is the restriction we have to impose ,,,but under a user pays private scheme ,,,we could have 120 kph roads ......

The trouble is ya just cant trust em .......

Stephen