Killers?

[froggyfrenchman]

Right. I live in hastings and have my lil brother living with me. He is good friends with that whole crowd and has lost 12 mates on the rroad this year. He was in the car behing the famous tree car. Being 1st on the scene he saw his friends all bleeding and dead, as did 50 or so other kids (arnt cell phones great? instant crowds!) For the 1st few days after any of these kids kill themselves, i have tons of these boys round here all sad and crying. THEN they all get in their cars and race back and forth past the crash scenes as a sign of respect, Following they all get on the piss on the side of the road somewhere (all being under 18) before drink driving to the next locations.
The thing that gets me is they all complain bout it being bad luck their mates are gone, and moan that the local police wont leave them alone. Whats wrong with these boys? How do you get the message through to them when watching their good friends die wasnt enough? If you have any ideas please pm them to me, coz theres a few of them i would like to see live for a nother year or so. As for the rest of them, i feel there is no hope. The lad spoken of in the begining of this thread was brought that $12,000 by his dad as a present apon getting outa hospital. So i do put alot of blame on the parents for this epidemic too, most of them have no idea where their kids are on a friday or saturday night. Now thats parenting!

[froggyfrenchman]

There is a track in hastings where they can race their cars for $1 a lap. Problem is its 1 car at a time and the track is far too small to get any speed at all. The hastings district council isnt even considering making it any bigger because its never used. Catch 22. The only real answer to this local problem of suisidal boy racers is for each kid and parent to work on it, prob is the kids want fast cars and the parents couldent give a shit whats happening.

Sorry ill stop ranting now, its just this subject is VERY close to me.

[InDeSkyz]

Get the bastards all go karts.
and
Don't be a gaurantor (sp) for a damn 12k car.

[froggyfrenchman]

A local doctor is now funding driving experiance in go karts at track for 3rd and forth formers to try and drum some knoledge in before they hit the road

[Colapop]

I didn't start this thread to blame anybody. My problem is the young people that are getting killed and killing others. Suicide and cars account for too many of our kids. Whether it's the parents, the media, or the government something needs to be done. The first step in getting action is to do something, to say something. I'm not trying to save the world, but if I can help one kid, maybe I'll have done something right in my life. I mentioned ealier in this thread a little about trashing my bike and myself 20 years ago. I didn't tell you about my brother (not real but as I consider him) stopping on the front of a truck on his bike 3 days after his 21st birthday. What can do you do to help? You help one at a time and hope that it's enough I suppose.

[Colapop]

This is the problem, these people are too busy being 'mates' with their kids and not being parents.
When the little shit is being a clueless ratbag, his parents have a duty to tell him he's a clueless ratbag.
Or would that damage the little darlings self-esteem?

I agree. As much as I would defend my kid, I would also be the first to kick his arse and tell him why.

[Marmoot]

I agree. As much as I would defend my kid, I would also be the first to kick his arse and tell him why.

ditto
it's called 'tough love'

[Colapop]

ditto
it's called 'tough love'

Isn't it just called 'love'?

[Marmoot]

Isn't it just called 'love'?

no. It's called 'tough love'.....believe me....please?

[notsoplainjane]

I was under the impression that if you have any kind of head injury or surgery you are NOT to drive for at least 6 months? Two people I've known have had brain surgery and have been informed that they are not to drive for a year each....
Or is this just a recommendation?

[spudchucka]

If there are medical reasons that a person shouldn't drive their licence is normally revoked until they are given medical clearance to resume driving.

[Lou Girardin]

Right. I live in hastings and have my lil brother living with me. He is good friends with that whole crowd and has lost 12 mates on the rroad this year. He was in the car behing the famous tree car. Being 1st on the scene he saw his friends all bleeding and dead, as did 50 or so other kids (arnt cell phones great? instant crowds!) For the 1st few days after any of these kids kill themselves, i have tons of these boys round here all sad and crying. THEN they all get in their cars and race back and forth past the crash scenes as a sign of respect, Following they all get on the piss on the side of the road somewhere (all being under 18) before drink driving to the next locations.
The thing that gets me is they all complain bout it being bad luck their mates are gone, and moan that the local police wont leave them alone. Whats wrong with these boys? How do you get the message through to them when watching their good friends die wasnt enough? If you have any ideas please pm them to me, coz theres a few of them i would like to see live for a nother year or so. As for the rest of them, i feel there is no hope. The lad spoken of in the begining of this thread was brought that $12,000 by his dad as a present apon getting outa hospital. So i do put alot of blame on the parents for this epidemic too, most of them have no idea where their kids are on a friday or saturday night. Now thats parenting!

Treat 'em like a computer - punch the info in.

[Motu]

no. It's called 'tough love'.....believe me....please?

''Tough Love'' is a patch for the love that was missing in the first place,there should be no reason to get ''tough'' with your kids.

When I was on Waiheke Island a dirt track was started for just this reason - all the young guys got into making beat up old cars for the dirt track,it was just a crappy track and the rules basic,but with time got more refined.Everyone was into it,everyone was making a car,winters were for next seasons car.I helped a few guys,we even used to get them in our workshop for work.The hoons had an interest,developed knowledge and mechanical skills....and a big ups in their driving skills too.

I did the same on the bike front - got the guys who blasted around everywhere on their dirtbikes out on the track,made an agreament with the farmers that we would use their land for enduros I organised,and stay off other times (lots of reckies of course) but the point was we were doing something with the young guys input.

Too ''dumb'' for the yoof of today???

[Wolf]

Wouldn't that would have bought two horses and a wagon then?

It would have - if the wheel had been invented back then - and I think at that stage only the dog had been domesticated. I think it would've got him a couple of pretty cool flint knives, though.

[Ixion]

It would have - if the wheel had been invented back then - and I think at that stage only the dog had been domesticated. I think it would've got him a couple of pretty cool flint knives, though.

Yeah - bloody slow our bikes were back then - only a couple of dog power, and it didn't go far when we had to skid them along without wheels. Played hell with the forks, everybody had bent forks. When I learned to ride like that, it's no wonder i'm such a nana.