Speeding and lack of riding skills

[bmz2]

another biker death on our roads today, it is becoming all to common , speeding and fatal crashes , there are threads posted on the forum regarding speeds and corners , how fast can your bike can go , these are fun in the right hands, but we have a lot of riders who think it is fun to ride and tell how they have pushed the speed to the max and how close they have got their bike down , well what i have read and seen today, it is know wonder that the police have it in for bikers , we all throught that a patch on the back of a jacket is where the police should start to clean up the biker groups [gangs], well they should start looking here first , people are living a dream of race riders and writing and about it , speed limits are placed on us for road conditions , but we seem to think we know best , [supermen], and well, we are not, and the riders who are out there telling us how great they are, [wankers.]
the police are going to make riding a bike so hard for us ,bigger fines, lose of bikes , stopping bikes for the sake of stopping us, here is a example , riding today sh16 ,4 other cruiser bikes nice ride untill 2 sportsbike , ran though the ride overtook while oncoming cars coming around corners forcing the ride to slame brakes on, pushing johnnyflash to take action to miss hitting the 2 bikes , then they overtook again a highspeed missing me by mm , while a oncoming car crossed the centre line while coming into the corner i had no where to go just hang on and wait for smash of bikes hitting me , as i said missed me by mm ,son of bitches this type of riding is leading to death, it is not ok to ride this way , yes i'm pissed off get home and read another death could of been 4 deaths, would love to find these 2 wanky riders

this is not cruiser v sportsbikes it is about the way we ride and speeds , i thought that i would get taken out by a cage ,NOT OTHER BIKER, AND FOR THE GUYS WHO THINK THIS FUNNY , WE WILL BE READING YOUR R.I.P THREAD SOON

[Katman]

I agree 100%. I'm sick and fuckin tired of this whole "But hey, we're crazy bikers - what do you expect" attitude.

[breakaway]

Once again, it's a case of the few ruining it for the majority.

[nudemetalz]

Me also.
I believe as you get older, you find speed isn't the only thing required with riding. I was quite happy to lose 46hp from my ZX-10 to upgrading to my Guzzi V11 Sport.

[yod]

another biker death on our roads today, it is becoming all to common , speeding and fatal crashes , there are threads posted on the forum regarding speeds and corners , how fast can your bike can go , these are fun in the right hands, but we have a lot of riders who think it is fun to ride and tell how they have pushed the speed to the max and how close they have got their bike down , well what i have read and seen today, it is know wonder that the police have it in for bikers , we all throught that a patch on the back of a jacket is where the police should start to clean up the biker groups [gangs], well they should start looking here first , people are living a dream of race riders and writing and about it , speed limits are placed on us for road conditions , but we seem to think we know best , [supermen], and well, we are not, and the riders who are out there telling us how great they are, [wankers.]
the police are going to make riding a bike so hard for us ,bigger fines, lose of bikes , stopping bikes for the sake of stopping us, here is a example , riding today sh16 ,4 other cruiser bikes nice ride untill 2 sportsbike , ran though the ride overtook while oncoming cars coming around corners forcing the ride to slame brakes on, pushing johnnyflash to take action to miss hitting the 2 bikes , then they overtook again a highspeed missing me by mm , while a oncoming car crossed the centre line while coming into the corner i had no where to go just hang on and wait for smash of bikes hitting me , as i said missed me by mm ,son of bitches this type of riding is leading to death, it is not ok to ride this way , yes i'm pissed off get home and read another death could of been 4 deaths, would love to find these 2 wanky riders

this is not cruiser v sportsbikes it is about the way we ride and speeds , i thought that i would get taken out by a cage ,NOT OTHER BIKER, AND FOR THE GUYS WHO THINK THIS FUNNY , WE WILL BE READING YOUR R.I.P THREAD SOON

if its not "cruiser vs sportbikes" then why even mention what they were?

[bmz2]

hope that they may read the thread and they may rethink how they ride , think about it, bikes riding all over sh16 today , 4 big cruiser bikes and you were the dickhead who rode though the group naming that you were on 2 sportsbikes ,woo that was me, would you like me to say 4 bikes riding sh16 passed by 2 bikes, is that better for you, as i said it not cruiser v sportbikes it was information for people to read

[madbikeboy]

I'm reminded of an old person, complaining about the speed of drivers today and the recklessness or youth. Regardless of what you ride, the main danger is cars, stationary objects, and congestive heart failure. I'd rather get shaved by a decent rider on a sports bike than by a car or a truck.

The worst part of this debate (aside from losing another young guy on a bike) is that the public and the media will pounce on any excuse to point the finger at fast bikes and the "obvious" carnage that we cause. Nevermind the fact that it's mostly bikers dying from getting hit by cars.

Understand that there's a huge variation of riders out there, just like any interest you get people who are reckless, and those who are risk adverse.

I respect your right to express your anger on the subject, but if you want a safe hobby, suggest you might look at playing golf or knitting. Riding a cruiser for relaxation works well in the unpopulated American mid-west, but we have shit roads and terrible drivers (not helped by the poor handling cruiser itself).

I ride a GSXR1000 like the young guy who lost his life this morning, I ride it with respect and care - but I also know that life is random. My sincerest condolances to his family, loved ones, and friends.

[yod]

You've obviously missed the point, which seems to happen all to often in this forum.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, which seems to happen all to often in this forum.

[Sparky Mark]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, which seems to happen all to often in this forum.

Is that right!...

Well, I've been riding a heap longer than you have. I'll also be very glad to relate a story of a trip I took over the Takas earlier this year with a friend of mine from Auckland who had just moved down here...

After warning him that the most dangerous thing on that hill is other dickshit bikers who are seemingly unable to control thier testorterone, a CBR something, overtook us on the inside of a bend as we were just about to cut the apex, forcing us into the oposite lane, followed by another biker over the other side who overtook just before a tight right hander, too hot and unable to make it, spilling himself, his bike, and heaps of oil down the road in front of me.
We could have been killed, he could have been killed, and besides that it completely F'd up our day out!

I'm quite happy to push my bike to my own or the limits of it's tyres but riding like a dick put's everyone else in danger and gives us all bad name.

So I'm quite confident I know what I'm talking about.!

[yod]

Is that right!...

Well, I've been riding a heap longer than you have. I'll also be very glad to relate a story of a trip I took over the Takas earlier this year with a friend of mine from Auckland who had just moved down here...

After warning him that the most dangerous thing on that hill is other dickshit bikers who are seemingly unable to control thier testorterone, a CBR something, overtook us on the inside of a bend as we were just about to cut the apex, forcing us into the oposite lane, followed by another biker over the other side who overtook just before a tight right hander, too hot and unable to make it, spilling himself, his bike, and heaps of oil down the road in front of me.
We could have been killed, he could have been killed, and besides that it completely F'd up our day out!

I'm quite happy to push my bike to my own or the limits of it's tyres but riding like a dick put's everyone else in danger and gives us all bad name.

So I'm quite confident I know what I'm talking about.!

nice story, but you suggested I was missing the point even tho you have no idea whether I was being serious, facetious or just taking the piss

so, you have no idea what you're talking about.

but nice story....

[sunhuntin]

hospital food... thats exactly why i stay on a 250. however, i do want to die on the road... but it wont be my fuck up that does it.

[Toaster]

Is that right!...
...I'm quite happy to push my bike to my own or the limits of it's tyres but riding like a dick put's everyone else in danger and gives us all bad name.

Well said and in context with what bmz2 was trying to communicate. Nice one.

Safe riding out there!

[Sparky Mark]

nice story, but you suggested I was missing the point even tho you have no idea whether I was being serious, facetious or just taking the piss

so, you have no idea what you're talking about.

but nice story....

I interpreted what you wrote and responded accordingly. I dont' feel i have to justify it further. Thank you...

[cowboyz]

sunhunting: huh???????????????

hospitalfood: WTF?

Yod: I thought you were out of bourbon?

[yod]

I interpreted what you wrote and responded accordingly. I dont' feel i have to justify it further. Thank you...

no, you MIS-interpreted what I wrote and responded based on pure assumption

so there isn't really any justification, is there...

thanks and have a nice day