Moeraki crash

[Berries]

tourists arnt allowed to drive in china

I understood that they can drive there but it is made very hard, ie all the paperwork is in Chinese which most tourists won't be able to read, even if they can talk a few words and order a beer.

Be interested to know if what you say is true. I am aware China is one of the few places not signed up to the 1949 Convention that allows reciprocal driving arrangements between countries.

[FJRider]

tourists arnt allowed to drive in china

Yes they are, but with conditions.

https://www.chinesedriverslicensetes...s-drive-china/

[FJRider]

Ah, I see. I never read the section of road code that talks about maintaining a bus schedule. My bad.

The Road code is not Legislation or Law. It does not mention a lot of what is written in/as Legislation.

However ... the Road Code DOES mention the need for courtesy on the road. And like most roads ... courtesy works both way ...

[Bonez]

I was not on a motorcycle, I was driving and fully aware of my surroundings. You high horse riders don't have very good reading skills I guess.

Where did any one say you where on a m/c? Do you ride a m/c not being fully aware of your surroundings?

[JimO]

Yes they are, but with conditions.

https://www.chinesedriverslicensetes...s-drive-china/

perhaps we need the same conditions here then

[FJRider]

perhaps we need the same conditions here then

Why … ???

We need the Chinese here (spending money) … more than China needs us there …

The number of Kiwi's going to China is very small. Not even 1 % of Kiwi's going overseas touring.

[JimO]

Why … ???

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because they can get straight off a plane and head off in a large SUV without any understanding of our roads/rules/conditions, at least tourists in china have to sit through a test of some sort, i spent a month in china and they drive there same as they drive here, badly

[FJRider]

because they can get straight off a plane and head off in a large SUV without any understanding of our roads/rules/conditions, at least tourists in china have to sit through a test of some sort, i spent a month in china and they drive there same as they drive here, badly

The very same can be said about an awful lot of New Zealanders … and THEY can't say they just got off a plane … Kiwi's kill more people on our roads (in one year) than ALL the visitor drivers ever have in NZ … And they think the Chinese are dangerous …

When was the last time you saw (in the newspapers or on TV) a Chinese visitor driver being involved in a fatal accident on NZ roads … ??

[JimO]

The very same can be said about an awful lot of New Zealanders … and THEY can't say they just got off a plane … Kiwi's kill more people on our roads (in one year) than ALL the visitor drivers ever have in NZ … And they think the Chinese are dangerous …

When was the last time you saw (in the newspapers or on TV) a Chinese visitor driver being involved in a fatal accident on NZ roads … ??

nationalities dont seem to get reported in the media for some unknown reason, perhaps some government/police initiative to keep the sheeple unaware who would know
you live in central dont you? do you drive around with your eyes shut?
of course kiwi drivers make up most of the deaths accidents duh.....https://www.transport.govt.nz/mot-re...versincrashes/

[FJRider]

nationalities dont seem to get reported in the media for some unknown reason, perhaps some government/police initiative to keep the sheeple unaware who would know

Are you thick .. ??? was the nationality of the driver in question in THIS thread mentioned … ??? fucking oath it was. As EVERY fatal prang will (Unless name suppression is ordered) … and any other prangs with foreign driver involvement.

you live in central dont you? do you drive around with your eyes shut?
of course kiwi drivers make up most of the deaths accidents duh.....

Aside from the fact that I'm not in Central much anymore … the shitty drivers involved in the large majority of motor vehicle accidents (in that area or anywhere else) and driving incidents are KIWI's … plain and simple. But you won't read about Kiwi drivers shitty driving much because it's not news. Well … not news KIWI's want to read about.

And while I was living in that area … the number of motorcyclists visiting the area (singly and in groups) was quite high ... And the average riding standard was not that great. A few even killed themselves in the area. Full dress cruisers with riders wearing shorts, T-shirt and jandals (no gloves) was (and still is) common. To see large groups (of all types) travelling at (well) over 100 km/hr with spacings of less than 6 meters is common. There are brilliant motorcycling roads in the area … but traffic volume nowadays has increased to the extent you need to literally just slow down. Off season rides used to be the best times for rides there … but there is no off season now.

And for some reason … fewer Chinese drivers on the roads at the moment …

[TheDemonLord]

And for some reason … fewer Chinese drivers on the roads at the moment …

Will be interesting then to compare the Crash Stats for the same time period and see what the difference is....

[FJRider]

Will be interesting then to compare the Crash Stats for the same time period and see what the difference is....

Funnily enough … they "May" be shitty drivers … but they don't feature much in fatal accident stat's … from European areas usually.

A thing to look at in crashes with "Foreign driver involvement" ... is whom is at fault. Often the headline is "Overseas tourist was involved" … not always found to be at fault. Mention of charges laid is usually mentioned on page three … a week later.

[Jeeper]

Basing nationalities on driver's external features is extremely dangerous - actually largely racist as well.

An Asian looking driver.... Hmmm. How large is Asia and how do we know they are not 3rd generation local citizens.

[JimO]

Basing nationalities on driver's external features is extremely dangerous - actually largely racist as well.

An Asian looking driver.... Hmmm. How large is Asia and how do we know they are not 3rd generation local citizens.

perhaps they are 3rd generation kiwis driving erratically and overtaking on blind corners and double yellow lines....is that racist?

[JimO]

Are you thick .. ??? was the nationality of the driver in question in THIS thread mentioned … ??? fucking oath it was. As EVERY fatal prang will (Unless name suppression is ordered) … and any other prangs with foreign driver involvement.



Aside from the fact that I'm not in Central much anymore …

.perhaps you should have a drive around central in the "on" season for tourists every second car is a rental and 2 out of 3 are driven badly by asians